Maintenance Management Qualifications?

[pitbase]

Lots of posts here relating to inept and unqualified decisions made by our superiors.What does it take to be a supervisor or managerial candidate these days?
Its my understanding on west side they prefer people with degrees.Here in east its not neccessarily that way.

Past choices in PIT,one present manager repaired lawn mowers,another fixed trains....while another was an engineer.What type backround would be apropos?
Degrees or school of hard knocks?

THE ONE MANAGER WITH A CLUE WAS FIRED. To be a manager at the big house all you need to do is keep the one above you happy, aircraft mtc is secondary

 

[pitguy]

Fixing the payroll is theft and will get you fired just about everywhere. The man lacked integrity big time also. I do agree with you though regarding keeping the boss happy.

 

[AP Tech]

THE ONE MANAGER WITH A CLUE WAS FIRED.

Must have been on his dock.......

 

[delldude]

Must have been on his dock.......

 

[AIRCRAFTMECHANIC]

I knew the lawn mower repairman as a foreman and I thought he did a pretty good job, always helped me out don't know if he has changed since becoming a manager!

this message is not for the above post
Ive ask the moderator to remove my no.14 post

In my last post # 14 I said some things that I wished I hadnt. I am not in a position to judge anyone and there leadership.Both foreman are good men one is a great father the other a great husband. Im ashamed that I vented on this chat room and I do not want to hurt anyone.
I was venting and I wish I had not written what I did. To both foreman please except my sincere appoligy.
I know that both of you are good men and I did not want to increase the already high stress levels we are all experiencing..me with my family and you with yours.We all have our problems you know about mine and i know a little about yours.
I would really like to all get along and have a productive career for us all.
gentleman you are my foreman and I wil do what ever you ask me to do.
Im sure you both know how we got here and it wasnt anyone in paticulars fault.
The important thing is we learn from our mistakes and stop this bashing from all sides
and move to a more productive relationship that will benifit us all.
I for one feel very unliked and harrassed and given demeaning jobs that are ment to hurt me.
I want to put this ''''' behind us and move to the type of relationship we should have.
I have worked for many foreman in my career and most have been my friends and someone I could trust and ask for help and respect because they are the boss....I know how to take orders....I also know that I want to be one of your best workers and for you to reap the benifits of the production .
To be a leader is hard it can also be rewarding
I guess you have to have thick skin and wisdom enough to know who wants to work hard and be liked so that in the end it will benifit your career.I want to be one of your best workers one who you can count on to work through break to make you look good to your superiors all I ask is to be liked and treated like you would want to be treated.
I know you are both good men who have stress on you ,I know I have a lot on me and sometimes it gets to be a lot.
let me be the worker I am and lets quit this
harrassment,we all have to work together for a common goal.In the long run I will help your career if we can 'all' get past this.
I saw the amount of stress i cause by writing that post on you and trust me I dont want to hurt you in anyway.
I want to be both of your friends and someone you can count on...I just cant seem to get there.
I guess thats where your leadership and your position come into play.
Somehow we all got off on the wrong footing.I want to stop it now before it gets worse and appoligize on here and hopefully you will be the wiser and learn that being a supervisor is a skill that is learned and earned through heartfelt lessons that will make us all the better for living through and repairing what
went wrong so that our coworkers see how we handled the situation in a proffesional manner and that they will realize that you are the leaders you both are striving to be.

My sincere appoligy to you both and I hope I didnt hurt either of you with my venting or cause you more stress then you are both dealing with already.
lets show upper management that we can get through this and make bay one a productive
unit that will shine.So that it benifits all of our careers.
I'll try but I'll need you both to lead the way.We can do this I know it...we are all human
and we will make mistakes lets learn from it and better our selves.I see the motivation in you and I respect that, its the same in me,let me show it for you to use to make your bay the most produtive and a model to better your careers.
This is sincere and what you do with it is up to you..I will do my best to make things better. with both of you leading the way out of this personal conflict we can make a difference in bay one productivity and attitudes. sincerly...the mechanic

 

[delldude]

THEY FIGURED OUT WHO YOU ARE....BID OUT NOW!!

OOPS

 

[hula-flyguy]

That could not have been easy. What a great first step, I hope there are more like you throughout the airline.

Good luck and wishing you well.

 

[pitbase]

Lots of posts here relating to inept and unqualified decisions made by our superiors.What does it take to be a supervisor or managerial candidate these days?
Its my understanding on west side they prefer people with degrees.Here in east its not neccessarily that way.

Past choices in PIT,one present manager repaired lawn mowers,another fixed trains....while another was an engineer.What type backround would be apropos?
Degrees or school of hard knocks?

Who will fill reefs job and will he be qualified? Sounds like it might be our W.VA lead

 

[pitguy]

Herk? What a piece of work.

 

[PITbull]

THEY FIGURED OUT WHO YOU ARE....BID OUT NOW!!

OOPS

My sentiments exactly. Someone got to him.

Call your union rep asap.

 

[smorzando]

Herk? What a piece of work.

Yea he's a piece of work...takes no enemies and knows what he is doing, like him or not...Always and forever bugging the machine shop guys to death on some government job. I did many for him, including his plane.


Reef...Ok IMO...the only one I thought was a little strange was the center dock manager, he was like a marine DI

 

[delldude]

Yea he's a piece of work...takes no enemies and knows what he is doing, like him or not...Always and forever bugging the machine shop guys to death on some government job. I did many for him, including his plane.
Reef...Ok IMO...the only one I thought was a little strange was the center dock manager, he was like a marine DI

I was in NDT when Kermit the Frog started taking his empire apart one locker at a time.Found lycoming cylinders and all kinds a/c parts floating through NDT....gave rise to the term WTF?
Bunch of Fuel nozzle room clowns tried to get him fired.What azzwholes.You know the ones that didn't notice the hidden cameras watching them play hearts on the company comp's for hours at a time.

the only one I thought was a little strange was the center dock manager, he was like a marine DI

 

[MOC A320]

Lots of posts here relating to inept and unqualified decisions made by our superiors.What does it take to be a supervisor or managerial candidate these days?
Its my understanding on west side they prefer people with degrees.Here in east its not neccessarily that way.

Past choices in PIT,one present manager repaired lawn mowers,another fixed trains....while another was an engineer.What type backround would be apropos?
Degrees or school of hard knocks?

On the west and east it does not take a degree. it takes knowing someone. I have put in for east ans west jobs and it all came down to who you know. Some of the pick I could understand and others made no sense.

 

[delldude]

On the west and east it does not take a degree. it takes knowing someone. I have put in for east ans west jobs and it all came down to who you know. Some of the pick I could understand and others made no sense.

so you have seen the SOP at U air....Hmmm....not who you know but who you...duh?

so I assume you may be quite qualified and worthy of the job(from your post indicates your interest) but alas...a
bonehead way to run an airline,eh? 😉

best of luck securing a position that will afford change to the old boy network.

 

[BeenThereDoneThat]

so you have seen the SOP at U air....Hmmm....not who you know but who you...duh?

so I assume you may be quite qualified and worthy of the job(from your post indicates your interest) but alas...a
bonehead way to run an airline,eh? 😉

best of luck securing a position that will afford change to the old boy network.

U Air does not have the patent on the SOP to which you allude. Have seen highly qualifed people at AWA NOT get the position in favor of a "good ole boy" that couldn't find water in the middle of a lake. Some have been attrited, some not. Seems there is no rhyme or reason to the selection process. If the qualified person gets the position, they usually get beat down and end up somewhere else on the way out the door. Very few have taken the position and actually moved up the ladder of success and stayed.