Medical Coverage?

[Ramp Rogue]

What medical coverage plan(s) did HP have before and after the merger?

 

[Ramp Rogue]

Does anyone at HP know what kind of medical coverage(s) you have?

 

[AIRWOMAN]

Does anyone at HP know what kind of medical coverage(s) you have?

It depends on which work group you are in and even in some instances, which location you work in.

PM me and I may be able to help you further.

 

[PITbull]

There should be a Summary Plan Description" for HP employees. Their coverage is not a system wide PPO. I believe it is a combination of HMOs, Indeminity plan and each labor group may have a different plan (as we did before Concession #1 in 2002).

I am sure THEIR West employees will NOT be happy with what we have on the EAST, premium rates, coverage, deductables. The Co-pays, deductables and employee % contribution went up for all of labor on the East. 2006 was to be the biggest jump with no increases in wages for the employees on the East to absorb this huge hike. When the PPO was forced down our throats during concession #1, we had "snap backs" coming in wages every year, and that was to help with the increase in medical premium employee contributions that were going to go up every single year. HOWEVER, since concession #1, all of labor has gone through 2 BK and 3 concessions hence, and there are no wages to absorb these increases from the changes in our Medical plan that was induced in 2002. So, with pension dumping, major increases in medical costs to the employee, no wage increases to absorb this and provisions in the contract that Labor must go into discussions regarding medical premiums by the end of 2008, will be a struggle for most of labor on the East and possibly on the West, if the West is forced to take the East "plan".

The PPO plan on the East "out of pocket" expenses are huge commencing Jan. 2006.

How the West labor groups handle this in their "transition negotiations" will be interesting.

 

[Jen]

There should be a Summary Plan Description" for HP employees. Their coverage is not a system wide PPO. I believe it is a combination of HMOs, Indeminity plan and each labor group may have a different plan (as we did before Concession #1 in 2002).

I am sure THEIR West employees will NOT be happy with what we have on the EAST, premium rates, coverage, deductables. The Co-pays, deductables and employee % contribution went up for all of labor on the East. 2006 was to be the biggest jump with no increases in wages for the employees on the East to absorb this huge hike. When the PPO was forced down our throats during concession #1, we had "snap backs" coming in wages every year, and that was to help with the increase in medical premium employee contributions that were going to go up every single year. HOWEVER, since concession #1, all of labor has gone through 2 BK and 3 concessions hence, and there are no wages to absorb these increases from the changes in our Medical plan that was induced in 2002. So, with pension dumping, major increases in medical costs to the employee, no wage increases to absorb this and provisions in the contract that Labor must go into discussions regarding medical premiums by the end of 2008, will be a struggle for most of labor on the East and possibly on the West, if the West is forced to take the East "plan".

The PPO plan on the East "out of pocket" expenses are huge commencing Jan. 2006.

How the West labor groups handle this in their "transition negotiations" will be interesting.

Well lets see , you do live in a free country, maybe you need to look at what You would rather settle for or perhaps transition to yourself.

 

[PITbull]

Well lets see , you do live in a free country, maybe you need to look at what You would rather settle for or perhaps transition to yourself.

Jen,

Don't understand your statement above. What do you mean by "transition to yourself"???

 

[hula-flyguy]

just somebody trying to stir the pot, me thinks.
Inept at best.

 

[PhxMama]

Does anyone at HP know what kind of medical coverage(s) you have?

Sorry, I work PT and although eligible for healthcare for myself, I decided to give myself a raise and drop it. Fortunately. I have healthcare through my spouse but it was nice to have the additional coverage. Too bad they kept passing costs to employee with no raises. When I was full time we had Mayo healthcare and it was reasonable. Then the United healthcare and costs going way it, not worth it for me. Lets hope the future brings better Health Insurance with better coverage for less. Sorry, I know this is not helpful.

 

[Jen]

Jen,

Don't understand your statement above. What do you mean by "transition to yourself"???

WELL LETS SEE.......
Our benetfits are much better, 😀 WAY better than the Bluecross plan, (your Union included in one of your less than reasonable settlement offers,without any negotiating!!!) :down: Ours include vision , dental, I have high opt. dental all general visit covered and have up to 1K/annually per each member,including orthodontics,(braces)" my oldest just got them off". GREAT 😀 ! I did discuss insurance several times with US employees. I pay half of what they do for better coverages!!! All my coverages!!! We also have short term disability available for the employee or family member requiring medical care, with a qualifying illness, when one is not able or cannot care for themself.
Not to mention , we have been negotiating for a better contract, of course. Plus we already have way more +++++! This does include but not limited to more, no less than anyone is currently taking home on payday US or HP. Better benefits to ALL and to all part time employees, maybe not all of us have a spouse to rely on for for medical or dental! (Thats a reality for some)
How about a union who is there to back you up,listen, return your calls, and who will always stand up for you , not sit back and say it is acceptable for any US/HP to slip down the totem pole, lose what they have earned.
Senority counted by employees current D.O.H. Does any of this sound like anything any US Fleet Service Employees could live with?????
Could you transition to this?

 

[PITbull]

Jen,

Let's just hope the CEO doesn't drop the gallot on your present health care coverage to capture more cost savings for the company and himself. Trust, you don't want the East coast PPO crap.

Hope you get to keep your enthusiasm, butI have a hunch the West folks are going to get an ear full from the management on COST savings and force the East insurance down your throats.

 

[Jen]

Jen,

Let's just hope the CEO doesn't drop the gallot on your present health care coverage to capture more cost savings for the company and himself. Trust, you don't want the East coast PPO crap.

Hope you get to keep your enthusiasm, butI have a hunch the West folks are going to get an ear full from the management on COST savings and force the East insurance down your throats.

Is it possible for you to see none of you have to wait until the end of your hacked contract? B) You should all have much more enthusiasm than I! Remember we are not in negotiations with a Co. in bankruptcy!!!

 

[alicat]

What medical coverage plan(s) did HP have before and after the merger?

we have united health care what do you guys have? 🙂 🙂 🙂

 

[barbeetantrums]

we have united health care what do you guys have? 🙂 🙂 🙂

UHC has unlimited chiropractor visits!

 

[Jen]

Jen,

Let's just hope the CEO doesn't drop the gallot on your present health care coverage to capture more cost savings for the company and himself. Trust, you don't want the East coast PPO crap.

Hope you get to keep your enthusiasm, butI have a hunch the West folks are going to get an ear full from the management on COST savings and force the East insurance down your throats.

You and all Us/Iam members need to realize,we have no bankruptcy/concessionary issues,We all deserve more pay, in your members case to get closer to what you had prior to any concessions without waiting...HOW MANY YEARS with your current representation ??? Opposed to what is right here now, opportunity to have a REAL election, and I KNOW with Our present Leadership w/TWU,they would stand up for all of us, even to the Company to do right by ALL of us! Would it really be that bad to keep what you are making now until negotiations could wrap up, and THEY ARE shooting for stars... compared to the long bitter wait Iam members are stuck with for years to come, They would stop at nothing less than better than what you currently are earning. Not to mention so many more benefits. We also have some in stations a cost of living increase.
No scare tactics here, or misleading information. How about a Union,just to mention...(NYC) that is not afraid to take care of all our people TOO! Wake UP Iam members , opportunity is KNOCKING!!!!!!!!!Part timers this includes you too! Everyone.
Gallot dropping would only be asking for a lawsuit, as WE are in the process of negotiations!! I know MY UNION would go that far. NYC is one thing, but TWU also represents alot closer to home,American & Southwest Fleet Services With TWU as well!

 

[Ramp Rogue]

Thanks for the input Jen. I do agree with you. I am willing to give TWU a chance, but to do that with first have to get enough cards sent in to have an election. I know first hand how many ways and times we have been misrepresentd by the iam. I have had it with them from the start. since the iam start representing U rampers, with have lost at every turn. And it hurts to know that the iam smiles at us and basically says big deal. Things have to change soon, especially how philly has the iam bamboozled in every way. The start point must be changing to the DOH seniority system, which is fair for all concerned. Then bring hP up to U payscales.Once those two things are accomplished everything else should fall right into place. GO TWU!