Members in Good Standing?

[proAMT]

I'm reading where there is a movement to keep former AMFA supporters from running for office in Tulsa. The AMFA drive ended years ago wtf?



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[AMFAMAN]

I'm reading where there is a movement to keep former AMFA supporters from running for office in Tulsa. The AMFA drive ended years ago wtf?



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Contact the Department of Labor, their office for you is in Dallas. They take this kind of sh*t very seriously and will investigate it and file any criminal and/or civil charges against those involved, but you will have to do all the internal steps first and than file with the DOL within 90 days of the election. Don't expect them to stop the election, and expect this to drag on for months, if not years before a new election would take place. They know this and that is why they get away with it.
I would still call them ASAP, but don't expect much in the way of help at this point.

Q1. I am concerned about the fairness of our upcoming union officer election. Can the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) monitor our election?

A1. No. DOL cannot monitor a union's officer election on request. The Office of Labor-Management Standards (OLMS) within DOL becomes involved in the union officer election process only after receiving a properly filed complaint from a member of the union. Generally, a union member cannot go straight to OLMS with a complaint. The member must first take his or her complaint to the union.

The LMRDA requires a member to exhaust available internal union remedies or to pursue those remedies for three months without receiving a final decision from the union. When either of those requirements is met, a member may then file a complaint with OLMS. There is a time deadline for filing complaints with OLMS. The complaint must be received by OLMS within one calendar month of the date on which the member received the union's final decision or within the fourth calendar month from the date on which the member filed their complaint with the union if they have not received a final decision by that time. When a complaint is properly filed with OLMS, an investigation is conducted. If OLMS agrees that a violation occurred that may have affected the outcome of the election, OLMS may enter into an agreement with the union to supervise a re-run election; or, if the union does not agree to a supervised election, OLMS will file suit in Federal District Court to request a supervised re-run election.

Your Rights under the LMRDA:

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/olm...esFactSheet.pdf

Conducting Local Union Officer Elections - A Guide for Election Officials:

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/olm...c/localelec.pdf

Union Officer Elections - A Complainant's Guide:

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/olm...erElections.pdf


Here's a list of enforcement cases:

http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/olm...forcement_1.htm


Tulsa is part of the Dallas district office:

Dallas District Office
U.S. Department of Labor, OLMS
James Devine, District Director
525 Griffin St., Room 300
Dallas, TX 75202
(972) 850-2500

http://www.dol.gov/esa/contacts/olms/lmske...m#Field_Offices

 

[1AA]

I'm reading where there is a movement to keep former AMFA supporters from running for office in Tulsa. The AMFA drive ended years ago wtf?



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I heard that the local president of 561 in Miami signed an A.M.F.A. card when he was based in DFW. Someone on this board or maybe someone in DFW can verify this. I heard this more than once. Good luck.

 

[proAMT]

I heard that the local president of 561 in Miami signed an A.M.F.A. card when he was based in DFW. Someone on this board or maybe someone in DFW can verify this. I heard this more than once. Good luck.

I thought election standards were supposed to be applied to all members in good standing equally. Are you telling me that there are people who supported AMFA in the past now serving the membership as TWU officers?

 

[The Goose]

I'm reading where there is a movement to keep former AMFA supporters from running for office in Tulsa. The AMFA drive ended years ago wtf?



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http://unionproud74055.tripod.com

There seems to be an issue with the number of monthly meetings attended by Hayes and Stewart, the two raising the most hell. Hayes (executive board nominee) has attended 5 meetings, Stewart (president nominee)has attended zero, not exactly a stellar show of concern by either. I believe these are the former amfa supporters you're referring to.

Don't know if the bylaws address meeting attendance requirements for officer nominees, but they should if not. Three meetings in the preceeding 12 months is the minimum required to be a shop steward; no reason this or a greater requirement shouldn't be applied to officers, but this would require a change in the bylaws.

Local 514 is in great need of change but not the kind of change we may realize by the election of former (maybe) amfa supporters.

If the roster doesn't improve, I'll be returning an almost unmarked ballot.

 

[1AA]

There seems to be an issue with the number of monthly meetings attended by Hayes and Stewart, the two raising the most hell. Hayes (executive board nominee) has attended 5 meetings, Stewart (president nominee)has attended zero, not exactly a stellar show of concern by either. I believe these are the former amfa supporters you're referring to.

Don't know if the bylaws address meeting attendance requirements for officer nominees, but they should if not. Three meetings in the preceeding 12 months is the minimum required to be a shop steward; no reason this or a greater requirement shouldn't be applied to officers.

Local 514 is in great need of change but not the kind of change we may realize by the election of former (maybe) amfa supporters.

If the roster doesn't improve, I'll be returning an almost unmarked ballot.

The issue on "Member in good standing" was brought up several times in the past. The way the TWU explained it to me was that you are in good standing if you are up to date on your dues. If you have been put in bad standing for whatever reason then you can not attend or run for office. If your local tells you that you must attend a set number of meetings in order to run for office then they are contridicting the international bylaws. All you have to do to run for any office position in the TWU is be in good standing. This is what the international bylaws states. If a local denies you to run because you did not attend set number of meetings then this is wrong. The locals cannot override the international bylaws. Ask your local rep or international officer. I did a while back. This is what I was told.

 

[The Goose]

I thought election standards were supposed to be applied to all members in good standing equally. Are you telling me that there are people who supported AMFA in the past now serving the membership as TWU officers?

Can't comment with certainty re: those presently serving, however, there are at least two former(?) supporters running for office in the upcoming election.

 

[TWU informer]

There will be more detailed discussion regarding the attempts by TWU Officials to once again keep the membership from being able to vote for Candidates of their choice here:

http://www.change514.com/514blog/index.php?blog=1&cat=14

Feel free to register and join the debate.

I have some opinions regarding the legal problems the TWU incumbents will soon face, but I choose to keep details close to the vest for now. No need to give them our strategy here.

 

[ch53D]

I heard that the local president of 561 in Miami signed an A.M.F.A. card when he was based in DFW. Someone on this board or maybe someone in DFW can verify this. I heard this more than once. Good luck.

That is federally protected information. The Privacy Act.

 

[TWU informer]

That is federally protected information. The Privacy Act.

Dennis Butchette, our appointed and so-called chief negotiator admitted to signing an AMFA card while testifying in a Kanmgaroo Court Hearing.

 

[ch53D]

Dennis Butchette, our appointed and so-called chief negotiator admitted to signing an AMFA card while testifying in a Kanmgaroo Court Hearing.

If everyone that has signed a card at one time or another would get on the same page at the same time it would be over for the TWU.

 

[Bob Owens]

I heard that the local president of 561 in Miami signed an A.M.F.A. card when he was based in DFW. Someone on this board or maybe someone in DFW can verify this. I heard this more than once. Good luck.

Bobby Gless was an AMFA organizer, he hosted an AMFA meeting at his former residence in Valley Stream and put up Delle in his house for the night. If its OK for former AMFA supporters to become International reps then I dont see how a Local could block a member in good standing from running.

Most of the officers from the line maintenance locals have filled out AMFA cards in the past.

You may want to consult a lawyer first, the DOL, which is basically a part of the Presidents Cabinet-(Bush and AA have a special relationship), can not be counted on to enforce the law.

 

[The Goose]

The issue on "Member in good standing" was brought up several times in the past. The way the TWU explained it to me was that you are in good standing if you are up to date on your dues. If you have been put in bad standing for whatever reason then you can not attend or run for office. If your local tells you that you must attend a set number of meetings in order to run for office then they are contridicting the international bylaws. All you have to do to run for any office position in the TWU is be in good standing. This is what the international bylaws states. If a local denies you to run because you did not attend set number of meetings then this is wrong. The locals cannot override the international bylaws. Ask your local rep or international officer. I did a while back. This is what I was told.

My previous post had to do with bad info I received - you are correct re: the "bad standing" issue.

Bobby Gless was an AMFA organizer, he hosted an AMFA meeting at his former residence in Valley Stream and put up Delle in his house for the night. If its OK for former AMFA supporters to become International reps then I dont see how a Local could block a member in good standing from running.

Most of the officers from the line maintenance locals have filled out AMFA cards in the past.

You may want to consult a lawyer first, the DOL, which is basically a part of the Presidents Cabinet-(Bush and AA have a special relationship), can not be counted on to enforce the law.

You brought up the "special relationship" between Bush and AA - this is from a Wikipedia entry re: one of the board members:

Armando Codina, a Cuban-American self-made millionaire, was among the 25 Florida electors for President Bush in the 2000 Presidential Election, and the 27 electors chosen in the 2004 Presidential Election. A prominent figure in Miami politics, Florida Energy, and real estate, Codina has had a close relationship with the Bush family since the 1980 Presidential Campaign of George H. W. Bush.

Codina gave Florida Governor Jeb Bush his first job in Miami in the early 1980s, after acting as the Florida chair of George H. W. Bush's unsuccessful campaign for the Republican Presidential Nomination in 1980.

Codina sits on the board for a number of corporations, companies, and organizations. Among these are American Airlines ...

 

[Bagbelt]

Most of the guys have signed an AMFA card at one time or another over the years, that in itself is not enough to bar someone from running or holding office. It has allways been a requirement to attend some meetings, however this was waived the last time due to so few people attending. It has allways struck me that meeting attendance is so much higher in Fleet service locals. When I was in 507 it was regularly packed even if everyone was pissed off. I liked the idea of maintenance locals but after the cocessions revote fiasco 90% of the interest fell off. The international better pull something out in 2008 or the whole idea of local officers is going to fall apart.

 

[iluvaa]

The reason the worthless incumbants are worried is because there are 10 people running and with our stupid bylaws in place there is no run off election that means it should take about 500-600 votes to get elected pres as for the other 2 so called AMFA guys running (Hayes Inman they wont get elected anyway)Stewart has a real chance thats why there worried all there going to do is look stupid as always