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I don't give a ratts arse what Delta has done, you are the one that lives and breathes by every move they make. Nothing wrong with moving into another career, as I have a trade that I work in during my time off as well. My point here is your endless industry knowledge that you CLAIM to have, and letting it go to waste. You may talk a good show, but apparently it didn't impress anyone at Delta enough to move you up to HDQ. I have a pretty good inside knowledge of Delta much to your shock, enough to know that they tend to promote from within pretty high up the ladder. Surely anyone as smart as you would have made it further than you did. Sure you can use the movin on excuse all you want, but not everyone is buying it. Maybe you moved on, because they didn't move you up, is that it? All if your long winded posts impress nobody except yourself. At times I think that you just write all of this stuff because you like to read your own stories. As much as I have tried to stay clear of your posts, I have found it unbearable to see just how superior you think you are when addressing people on here...
Grasp That.
if you have been at HP/US for as long as you have been, why aren't you the CEO? Apparently you don't have what it takes?
The logic you apply that I didn't move up because I apparently didn't have what it takes is equally as ridiculous as thinking that you should be the CEO because you stuck around for 30 years. Neither makes any sense.
You can't grasp that I moved on from the airline industry PRECISELY because I see what it is and I didn't want to invest another 15 years of my life waiting to get out. I left because I want to do something else completely. Not on the side. Completely out.
I'm glad you have a side job. Lots or airline employees do.
I wanted OUT in order to do other things my life and I am quite happy with what I am doing now and wouldn't turn back. But even if you left US today, you would still know more about ramp operations than I ever would. You can't grasp the concept that you don't have a lock on the airline industry just because you receive a paycheck from an airline and you don't all of a sudden possess knowledge for an area that you never worked in, esp. moreso than someone who actually did.... and those jobs ARE done at airline HDQ's - not on the field.
The way you demonstrate that I do not have a lock on knowledge in the discussions that take place on here is to participate in those same discussions using facts and knowledge. You have all too often resorted to name calling and personal attacks instead of countering with real information. Perhaps if you were a whole lot less worried that someone actually knows something more than you and participated in the topic at hand, you would indeed be seen as equally knowledgeable.... and I would welcome your participation.
There are people who can indeed intelligently and factually respond to what I post - and I participate because they are here.
feel free to cite examples, but where you and I have butted heads here is over your ongoing assessments of DL as being so hard on its employees. Out of 80K employees, I am sure there are many who aren't happy - but in a democratic process, there aren't enough of them to decide they want something other than a direct employee - employer relationship.
Your clear goal appears to have been to replicate the employee-employer relationship at DL that you had at NW. I am very happy you had a fulfilling career at NW, but that world doesn't exist anymore. DL runs its business as it sees fit and on a number of levels does it far better than any other airline in the US or the world. Your peers have consistently said they want no more unions on DL property; just like so many conversations on here involving other employee groups at other airlines, many pilots at DL aren't happy w/ ALPA. IN the middle of all this dissatisfaction that so many airline employees have w/ their labor representatives and what those representatives have achieved, DL has chosen to pay its people above average compared to their peers -and most recently has increased pay at faster levels than for any other airline employees in the US. The vast majority of people are far more motivated by money than intangibles which is why DL employees have chosen not to be further represented by unions and are allowing DL to be far more ahead of its peers than it has been at any time in its history.
I am sorry to have become your chief online opponent; but I can't sit back and allow you as a near singular voice to make statements about DL than I could about the potential for an AA route from MIA-TLV which are contrary to fact. You have enormous potential to gain what you want and I would DAP to help you achieve it. Your quest for a larger role for labor is not likely to come at DL, however.
And it is precisely because I understand and understood the culture and business practices of DL that I could say with certainty what I did about the outcome of DL's labor representation processes.
If you would like to cite other examples of where I have talked outside of my league and been wrong, please feel free to post it.
The same thing is just as true regarding network/financial issues in the industry including beyond DL.
And, wings, it doesn't really matter what you think of DL or not but it remains that DL is an archrival of both AA and US - it was before the merger and it is even more so now.
You and your peers can talk all you want about what AA/US will accomplish and I wish you well in doing so.
But the airline industry is not youth soccer where everyone goes home w/ a prize. Some WILL lose and some will win at other's expense because that is the way life really works.
DL completed a merger with NW easier and faster than any other large merger had been done before and in so doing DL has gained a first mover advantage over its peers. DL is moving onto a whole new set of strategic initiatives to counter the mergers that other carriers are still working thru, including AA/US which doesn't even have government approval. While you talk about the strength AA/US will have in the future, DL has already (I learned that lesson, Josh
)bought equity stakes in foreign airlines in three key AA markets, gained the largest position at both LGA and JFK in a transaction that US agreed to and which makes it impossible for AA/US to ever regain the position they once had or gain parity with DL, and is refleeting the airline to move more capacity to mainline, which customers prefer and which will reduce DL's costs further and faster than what its peers can do. AA/US still has hundreds of 50 seat jets to dispose of and is way behind DL in terms of large RJs or mainline 100 seat aircraft.
That is the reality of the industry in which you work and you have to compete in that arena. If you want to pretend that isn't the truth, go right ahead - but as long as you or others want to talk about something besides internal labor issues and employee benefits, you should expect I will be here to participate as well.
All the best to both of you. (edited by moderator)
