Mergers coming soon....

[Elevation]

Very true, however, success is not measured by cash in the bank short term, but rather strong cash flow and profits long term. Based on today's operation, that is questionable. This is what investors/Wall Street look at.

You so you're saying Parker is doing a good job short term but long term it is questionable? And you bases for this is stock price? Look at SWA, strong cash flow long term profits, price...$13.92.

 

[FWAAA]

One fact that overcomes all, Parker has almost made a BILLION dollars in PROFIT since this train wreck began. I you want to be creditable you have to start there and end there, its business.

Not all that impressive given the multiple trips to bankruptcy court and the corresponding multiple rounds of paycuts, including the screwing of the pilots by terminating their pension. The beatings have continued - how's that morale coming along?

 

[dariencc]

You so you're saying Parker is doing a good job short term but long term it is questionable? And you bases for this is stock price? Look at SWA, strong cash flow long term profits, price...$13.92.

You are obviously in the wrong business. Your talents would be served so much better on the deal team at Lazard Freres.

Sorry to point out, however, that with over 700 million shares outstanding , Southwest's market cap exceeds 10 billion dollars.

With just over 90 million shares, the market cap for LCC is about 1.6 billion.



So your point is what? :unsure:

 

[bigbusboy]

You are obviously in the wrong business. Your talents would be served so much better on the deal team at Lazard Freres.

Sorry to point out, however, that with over 700 million shares outstanding , Southwest market cap exceeds 10 billion dollars.

With just over 90 million shares, the market cap for LCC is about 1.6 billion.



So your point is what? :unsure:

Nice answer....Thank you. A lesson in the stock market and how it works is what is needed here.

 

[brokenwrench]

Airline Market Value 11/29/07

Southwest 10.09 billion
American 5.30 billion
Delta 5.25 billion
United 4.78 billion
Northwest 4.35 billion
Continental 2.77 billion
US Airways 1.91 billion
SkyWest 1.58 billion
JetBlue 1.26 billion
Alaska 1.01 billion
AirTran 778 million
Republic 746 million
Allegiant 712 million
Midwest 394 million
Mesa 105 million

 

[US1YFARE]

I you want to be creditable you have to start there and end there, its business.

Bother way, it is plane rediculus that you instruct others about maintaining creditability when you don't understand stock prices of two companies as a measure of success and that is like comparing calzones to beef tenderloin, shrimp cocktail. And ice cream sundaes.

 

[FWAAA]

You are obviously in the wrong business. Your talents would be served so much better on the deal team at Lazard Freres.

Sorry to point out, however, that with over 700 million shares outstanding , Southwest market cap exceeds 10 billion dollars.

With just over 90 million shares, the market cap for LCC is about 1.6 billion.

You mean I can't just compare stock prices? You mean to tell me that shares of stock don't represent identical percentages of ownership in every company? Some companies have fewer than 100 million shares and other companies have nearly a billion shares outstanding? This high finance thing is so, like, Hard, like Math. 😀

Seriously, though - good explanation.

 

[nostradamus]

How ironic St. Nic day is soon.

Hypothetical conversation between Parker and Prater

Ring sound, Parker calling Prater. (Top Gun theme sounds on the head of the Airline Pilots Associations phone.)

“Captain Praterâ€￾

“Hi Captain Prater, Doug Parker here.â€￾

“Hello Mr Parkerâ€￾

“You can call me Doug by the way, how are you John.â€￾

“You can call me Captain Prater.â€￾

“Ok Captain Prater. Lets get to the point , you have the list and I’ve got a merger possibility that will make this world a better place for airline travelers and you will save ALPA. Of course I am going to net millions of dollars on this. I need the list presented after the first of the year, so we do not disrupt holiday travel when we announce a transaction with United and Virgin America. Virgin will get assets only, but Tilton and I will clean up on the merger and you‘ll get your ALPA back. We need to use the Nic award to get rid of the old bastard Usairways pilots. It seems though, a lot like Pan Am, TWA, Braniff, Ozark and Eastern, no ALPA pilots want the excess baggage associated with their union brothers I have flying for me. Your Union leadership helped here, ideas Please.â€￾

Captain Prater adjusts his wig and says, “no problem. I have been through this many times before, we will make them the tip of the spear and mention them in the Flying The Line Book. Excuse me Doug, Santa Claus,Rudolph, tinker bell and Peter Pan are on the line, they fly and we need dues paying members.â€￾

“Call you after the first of the year, Ba buy Captain Prater, My driver is waitingâ€￾

“Must be nice to have your own driver, Doug.â€￾

“I’ll explain later Capt Prater, I am not held up to the standards you pilots are on driving privileges.â€￾

Click sound.

Slam noise.

 

[US1YFARE]

, like, Hard, like Math. 😀

Sorta like debbie's thighs...she bought that suzanne summer's thighmaster and it has done wonders

 

[brokenwrench]

Her thighs are like math?

 

[dariencc]

Airline Market Value 11/29/07

Southwest 10.09 billion
American 5.30 billion
Delta 5.25 billion
United 4.78 billion
Northwest 4.35 billion
Continental 2.77 billion
US Airways 1.91 billion
SkyWest 1.58 billion
JetBlue 1.26 billion
Alaska 1.01 billion
AirTran 778 million
Republic 746 million
Allegiant 712 million
Midwest 394 million
Mesa 105 million

Your numbers were correct on 11/29/07. As of today, LCC's cap is down to 1.65b.

 

[Elevation]

Very true, however, success is not measured by cash in the bank short term, but rather strong cash flow and profits long term. Based on today's operation, that is questionable. This is what investors/Wall Street look at.

The comments are referring to this statement above about what investors/wallstreet looks at to invest in a company = current stock price not overall market cap. As a investor would you put your money in SWA or LCC? (neither is the right answer btw) The point missed is, even if you have strong cash flow and long term profits (aka SWA stock flat for a long time) does not mean success by investors/ wall street. No mention of value of a company or market cap. Reread my post maybe it's clearer now.

 

[mrman]

It is a place frequent fliers use their free trips to go to.

I think your mistaken. Fares are so cheap FF buy tickets, they don't 'waste mile to LAS. Also isn't LAS the largest convention city in the nation. Many people travel on business to LAS

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP> My point is the next round of consolidation probably won't involve US unless we are the aquirer. And based on DL's reaction last year, I don't think that is going to happen. US might actually be better off not getting involved this time.

If US is left out this place is in big trouble.

Her thighs are like math?

34.5 x 2 = ____

 

[luvn737s]

Once the Western furloughs begin, no one in their right minds would entertain a joint contract that exposes the East to St. Nic.

Why would there be western furloughs? They could open a eastern base for west pilots and planes tomarrow if they wanted. No one seems too concerned with TA restrictions at this point. I would not be surprised to see Parker circumvent the TA if it meant the company could gain greater synergies without actually merging both carriers' seniority lists. This keeps the option open for spinning off either side and rejoining with a healthier partner.