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Only part of East assets (read: not employees) will be sold off - either SWA or AA come in with cash to buy the leases to the PHL gates. The international flying is moved to IAD if it's UAL or to JFK if it's DAL. Having one certificate in place would make the divestment process a lot easier because the remnants of the East will be on the same certificate of the West. That way Doug will only have to merge two certificates, the LCC certificate and the UAL/DAL/whoever certificate. In the meantime, Doug will use the disarry in the East pilot group to his advantage by placating the pilots at the much larger other airline - all cuts in mainline pilot jobs will be absorbed by attrition at all three carriers, with the East conveniently absorbing much of that loss. Probably the best thing for the West pilots at this point would be for USAPA to succeed which would then force ALPA to do what it should have done the day after the list was forwarded from Nicolau.

Hey dude....employees staff those assets you're talking about....no assets.....no need for the other.
 
The so called "big announcement" is probably the announcement of the new inseat IFE the company says it will experiment this fall. Of course we won't see it on the airplane for 2 years as we all know a decision TODAY means that aren't really ready.
 
Did anyone see Branson on CNN last night. He laid it right out and I think 2-3 years from now everyone is going to be looking around going "what happened?". Sucker punch from Virgin that's what. This place can't even find a sponge to clean the cabins who cares about IFE.
 
Maybe the big announcement will be Flight 52 from JFK-LAS finally ran on time. It would satisfy me.
 
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Lots of sand in Tempe for Doug to bury his head in.

All the Dougoids should know, Lakefield orchestrated this merger, got his money, and left Gilligan in charge. Let's face it, Dougie should pumping gas at the Quicky Mart, not running a major airline.

A bigger airline, please.
 
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Lots of sand in Tempe for Doug to bury his head in.

All the Dougoids should know, Lakefield orchestrated this merger, got his money, and left Gilligan in charge. Let's face it, Dougie should pumping gas at the Quicky Mart, not running a major airline.

A bigger airline, please.
I was thinking Dougie may be "better suited" to restocking the Beer cases ay Circle K......even HE knows what types of Beer MOVE. (For Christ's sake it appears that's all He knows).
 
AFA Section 1 of East Contract SCOPE

"3. Partial Transactions

Well if AA buys some thing like aircraft which I cannot imagine you will get stapled to the bottom of their seniority list which already contains 1600 furloughees that would be ahead of you. Find a friendly buyer.
 
No one said it was all peaches and cream. I said they had to take a certain % of us on the sen list. How and why is another drama. And it's a bid process so who on earth would go to AA knowing thier history? I was looking at the AW AFA contract and I was astonished to find LITTLE if no fragmentation protection. Not good.
 
I can tell you this much , it’s not going to be OUR company that’s broken up , uh HELLO we just made 243 million dollars last quarter , and we’ve been profitable for the past 7 quarters , what idiot in their right mind would break up a company making THAT much money ( it’s a rhetorical question ! ) .

As for doug parker , you really have to respect the job he does . I know , some of you are incapable of separating your feelings from your thoughts , but he really DOES do a good job , right now I would say his two main tasks are planning for the future of our airline and managing it’s finances . I don’t know about you , but I’m making crap for wages , this is due in large part to doug parker , now we might be able to come up with all sorts of names for his strategy , crapping on the worker , robbing the poor , but what it’s really called is keeping costs down . He is a VERY effective leader in that one aspect alone . Then there’s the very fact that he tells you to your face that he’s not going to pay you more ,and he’ll also tell you whatever else you want to know FACE TO FACE in his town halls . Yes he sugar coats it at the town hall’s but basically he tells you what you don’t want to hear . I don’t know about you all , but I also respect the fact that he has the balls to say what he’s thinking TO MY FACE .

The problems of this airline are more operational than anything else , and we all know who’s fault that is (his name starts with Scott , last name sounds like derby )

Don’t get me wrong , I’m not kissing dougwisers ass , I just call it like I see it . If any of you are looking to beat him at his own game it’s going to take planning and commitment from your side . He has the advantage of knowing what the future holds , but we have the advantage of being integral parts of this company . So far thou it looks bleak .

Doug parker 10 workers 0
 
Funny! Second Ch. 11, Financial Docs showed 7 days of $$ left in the bank, therefore a possible Ch. 7! :up:

Pathetic!!! :blink:

Just accountants packaging EAST for a merger. Unfortunately, we got tied into an inept, embarrassingly incompetent airline. Wish they could have talked Bethune into coming back to run the EAST, instead of choosing this mess... <_<
 
I can tell you this much , it’s not going to be OUR company that’s broken up , uh HELLO we just made 243 million dollars last quarter , and we’ve been profitable for the past 7 quarters , what idiot in their right mind would break up a company making THAT much money ( it’s a rhetorical question ! ) .

As for doug parker , you really have to respect the job he does . I know , some of you are incapable of separating your feelings from your thoughts , but he really DOES do a good job , right now I would say his two main tasks are planning for the future of our airline and managing it’s finances . I don’t know about you , but I’m making crap for wages , this is due in large part to doug parker , now we might be able to come up with all sorts of names for his strategy , crapping on the worker , robbing the poor , but what it’s really called is keeping costs down . He is a VERY effective leader in that one aspect alone . Then there’s the very fact that he tells you to your face that he’s not going to pay you more ,and he’ll also tell you whatever else you want to know FACE TO FACE in his town halls . Yes he sugar coats it at the town hall’s but basically he tells you what you don’t want to hear . I don’t know about you all , but I also respect the fact that he has the balls to say what he’s thinking TO MY FACE .

The problems of this airline are more operational than anything else , and we all know who’s fault that is (his name starts with Scott , last name sounds like derby )

Don’t get me wrong , I’m not kissing dougwisers ass , I just call it like I see it . If any of you are looking to beat him at his own game it’s going to take planning and commitment from your side . He has the advantage of knowing what the future holds , but we have the advantage of being integral parts of this company . So far thou it looks bleak .

Doug parker 10 workers 0

But Freedom, think of what we COULD had made with better management skills.
 
Maybe I'm crazy, but I'd prefer consolidation hurry up and happen. It's coming anyway, I'd rather have it sooner.

US Airways will likely be a part of it, but it could be royally screwed if the other majors pair up without it. As much as I despise the hot mess the current US is if it means making money to ensure we are a top in the merger games, then all right...

One thing Doug is right about is that there is just too much capacity, too many network airlines. Too much competetion. There needs to be fewer airlines and less competeion- its simple economics- the product is being sold well below market rate because there is too much of the product available. Consolidation will make the industry healthier, which benefits airline employees.

Fewer and larger workforces, once integrated, have much more leverage and bargaining power. A healthier industry and more competitive job market will result in better labor contracts, compensation, and work rules.

It's happening anyway- bring it on.
 
2nd quarter '07 for example- EAST $245 Million profit, AWA $25 million loss...No arrogance, just facts.

The above may be facts but you do not understand how the figures were created. Much of the costs of operating the airline that come from both East and West were charged to the west. I'm not sure why, guess it was simpler that way. The above in no way mans the west lost money and the East made money. Both sides were profitable.
 

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