No furloughed mechanics

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Rumor is United is considering laying off mechanics, when United has outsourced beyond what the contract states in excess of half billion dollars. United could retrieve some of that outsourced work, and keep everybody working, or they can give us the money they owe us, and divide it up amongst the employees. A lot of people I work with feel the same. 😉

 

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Rumor is United is considering laying off mechanics, when United has outsourced beyond what the contract states in excess of half billion dollars. United could retrieve some of that outsourced work, and keep everybody working, or they can give us the money they owe us, and divide it up amongst the employees. A lot of people I work with feel the same. 😉

Corporate greed at it;s finest....It seems ALL airline execs...think they are above on a different level than rank and file....

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Rumor is United is considering laying off mechanics, when United has outsourced beyond what the contract states in excess of half billion dollars. United could retrieve some of that outsourced work, and keep everybody working, or they can give us the money they owe us, and divide it up amongst the employees. A lot of people I work with feel the same. 😉

I was under the impression that issue was still in arbitration, has it been answered?

Was UAL found in violation of the 20%?

 

[UAL_TECH]

I was under the impression that issue was still in arbitration, has it been answered?

Was UAL found in violation of the 20%?

It is still in arbitration. Probably no answer this year.

B)

 

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Talked to a fellow mechanic, said there is a meeting scheduled in October, but people are trying to get the meeting moved to July. The October meeting would possibly be the last meeting, then a decision would be made at a later date, next year? From what I have heard the ruling will likely favor the mechanics, I just hate to see mechanics laid off when the company has been outsourcing well over the contractual amount. The company could bring back a small amount of work, and keep everybody working. The people most effected by the outsourcing are the people who were furloughed, and now the company is going to furlough more people, and one of the penalty scenarios of payment for excess outsourcing is paying people who were furloughed. The company would be smart to not furlough mechanics.

 

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So let me get this straight, United as I type this, is still outsourcing maintenance $200,000,000. a year beyond what the contract calls for. So say I get furloughed again, United is going to pay me 3 months severance, I collect unemployment for 6 months, or what ever it is, and United is going to pay me back pay for the time I sat home, and or worked another job while on furlough. 🙂

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

So let me get this straight, United as I type this, is still outsourcing maintenance $200,000,000. a year beyond what the contract calls for. So say I get furloughed again, United is going to pay me 3 months severance, I collect unemployment for 6 months, or what ever it is, and United is going to pay me back pay for the time I sat home, and or worked another job while on furlough. 🙂

A nice thought but no.

Any arbitrated settlement would mitigate your back pay award by your interim income.

Stay at home and do nothing, and get more, find a job and get the difference between what you are making and what you were making.

 

[UAL_TECH]

It is all hyperbole anyway. UA is loosing it’s A$$, laying off thousands and grounding airplanes. Yet somehow people believe that they have $500 mil to pony up for going over outsourcing limits.

You guys never cease to amaze me. :blink:

B) UT

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

It is all hyperbole anyway. UA is loosing it’s A$$, laying off thousands and grounding airplanes. Yet somehow people believe that they have $500 mil to pony up for going over outsourcing limits.

You guys never cease to amaze me. :blink:

B) UT

Never had any illusions on what might happen. As soon as the arbitrator finds UAL guilty, the company will cut a deal with the union. The arbitration was bifurcated for a reason, and I for one believe it was exactly for just such an outcome

 

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No illusion here either. United decided to outsource maintenance beyond what the contract called out years ago, knowing there would be a compromise down the road. A person wants a Ferrari, but settles for a Corvette, a man wants to marry a supermodel, but settles for a woman his looks, education, and money can get, and he is pretty happy. The union will compromise for a little pay day, and they will be pretty happy, the mechanics will receive a compromise in the form of a pay raise, and or added benefits, and they will be pretty happy, at least the ones remaining, and this all assumes United does not go into bankruptcy, in that case no one is happy. 🙁

 

[UAL_TECH]

That would be true if you had leverage, but have none.
Management thinks of you as a joke and the ‘membership’ has proven this time and time again. Hopefully, the IBT will be able to mitigate the upcoming onslaught, but it will be mitigation by company decision, not by what you and I think is just.

Good Luck to Us All!

Take Care,
B) UAL_TECH