Non-rev Charges Went Up When?

[Garfield1966]

I think you should all be glad that non-rev / buddy pass travel even still exists. Their are rumors flying around aviation circles that non-rev employee travel may soon be a thing of the past.

After all with the current fuel prices it is worth it to the airlines to fly with that seat open..

Just be glad, for the time being, you can still travel reduced rate/non-rev..

[post="278736"][/post]​

I'd be hard pressed to believe that. Travel benifits are one of the few reasons to work for a airline. IF any airline wants to see moral tank, cancel the travel benifits.

 

[local 12 proud]

Travel benny's are not such a big deal anymore, personally i can't really afford to take extended trips after all the concessions and N/R out of Tulsa has always been a burden to say the least. Here's a thought, give me my pay and vacation back and i will Buy a full fare ticket on AA with a confirmed seat that way they make money and I can afford to Vacation.

 

[Andre1980]

I'd be hard pressed to believe that. Travel benifits are one of the few reasons to work for a airline. IF any airline wants to see moral tank, cancel the travel benifits.

[post="278802"][/post]​

I second that too. The day any airline removes this privilage there would be a dramatic increase in the turn over rate especially since the pay 'ain't all of that'. People would not put up with hard to please passengers, pay cut after pay cut and difficult working conditions for nothing. They can easily leave and find something better to earn a living.

I must agree that the poster is over reacting to the extra $20. Which is not anything to the actual cost of the ticket.

 

[goingboeing]

I'd be hard pressed to believe that. Travel benifits are one of the few reasons to work for a airline. IF any airline wants to see moral tank, cancel the travel benifits.

[post="278802"][/post]​

What good are the travel benefits anymore with load factors at record levels? You ever try to non-rev out of Tulsa with a limited number of seats and 7000 employees and their families?
The travel bennies USE to be a NICE benefit when we were making record profits with 69% load factors.
They are a joke now if you work in Tulsa.

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

I'd be hard pressed to believe that. Travel benifits are one of the few reasons to work for a airline. IF any airline wants to see moral tank, cancel the travel benifits.

[post="278802"][/post]​

That's why they will get rid of flight benefits. Angry employees work harder! :rant:

 

[MarisMH]

In two days non-rev flight benefits will not be available to those of us furloughed July 03. They were never available or only available three months to those FA's furloughed prior.

I am very grateful that my family had these benefits, I'm from MSP, and married someone I met in DFW, we had a baby nine months after I was furloughed. D2P travel enabled my mother to get on a flight the morning I went into labor and be there by the time the baby came. Flight benefits have kept me physically connected to my family during the past two years.

The company was generous to extend these benefits to us in July 03 (I'm not certain what their motives were, and don't really care), which was more than the APFA attempted for us.

I would be willing to sit hours at the airport, in every middle seat, and even shell out twice as much money to fly non-rev (because even though it's cheap to fly positive, it's still not as cheap as $40 RT), to have the benefit to leave on a whim.

Not meant to be a Hallmark posting or anything, just a different perspective on the issue.
🙂

 

[Garfield1966]

I non-rev all the time. With a little bit of flexibility and planning, I have never had a problem yet. In close to 20 years, I have never had to over night and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I did not make my intended flight. One year I calculated my non rev flight at regular rates based on the average 14 / 21 day adv fares and AA would have had to given me a 30% raise to pay for it. I’ll keep my travel bennies thank you very much. I don’t see them going any where any time soon.

 

[Wild Onion]

I'm not sure if anyone actually answered the OP's question. I know at one point there was a morotorium on the $5.00 security surcharge on each leg of a trip (up to 4 segments). That would equal $20 right there. AA had no control over this fee.

I see no problem in complaining about NRSA charges. It's part of the benefit package. If the cost of insurance goes up, it's the same thing.

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

I non-rev all the time. With a little bit of flexibility and planning, I have never had a problem yet. In close to 20 years, I have never had to over night and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I did not make my intended flight. One year I calculated my non rev flight at regular rates based on the average 14 / 21 day adv fares and AA would have had to given me a 30% raise to pay for it. I’ll keep my travel bennies thank you very much. I don’t see them going any where any time soon.

[post="279508"][/post]​

You must not work for AA then. Who are you trying to kid? I guess if you consider going from DFW to San Angelo,TX. an exciting vacation then good for you. :blink:

 

[kirkpatrick]

I see no problem in complaining about NRSA charges. It's part of the benefit package.

[post="279545"][/post]​

I tend to agree with you and the original poster. Free travel, and sharply reduced FC/business travel, is a cherished benefit I don't want to lose. Increasing surcharges and then telling me it's still less than the full fare is like doubling my medical copayment and then telling me it's still less than the $125 the doctor charged me.

It's also a benefit which costs the company very little, and goes a long way toward easing the pain of paycuts and workrule changes.

MK

 

[eolesen]

I tend to agree with you and the original poster. Free travel, and sharply reduced FC/business travel, is a cherished benefit I don't want to lose. Increasing surcharges and then telling me it's still less than the full fare is like doubling my medical copayment and then telling me it's still less than the $125 the doctor charged me.

It's also a benefit which costs the company very little, and goes a long way toward easing the pain of paycuts and workrule changes.

MK

[post="279627"][/post]​

Point of order... Travel is a privilege, not a benefit. It's certainly not an entitlement.

Privileges aren't taxable as income, but benefits can be. God help us if we start getting the fair market value of our travel added as taxable income...

 

[jimntx]

Let's not lose sight of the fact that the original poster was complaining about having to pay $88.00 for a F/C seat r-t SJU/ORD. Assuming he/she "walked up" and found out that the only available seat was in F/C, let's put that in the perspective that the walk up fare for that seat is something like $1900.00 round-trip.

Granted the percentage increase was substantial--46%. However, even that is suspect. When he posted that the flight was full so he "had" to sit in F/C, that implies that he normally travels in coach. So, if $60 is what he used to pay in coach, then I don't think that $88 for F/C is all that outrageous an increase.

Oh, one other thing. Someone posted about the "unfairness" of increasing the NRSA charges then telling us about it. Baloney. The NRSA charges are available at any time in the Non-Rev Travel Planner on Jetnet. If you get upset when prices go up over time, then you must have apoplexy at the grocery store and the gas station.

 

[eolesen]

Oh, one other thing. Someone posted about the "unfairness" of increasing the NRSA charges then telling us about it. Baloney. The NRSA charges are available at any time in the Non-Rev Travel Planner on Jetnet. If you get upset when prices go up over time, then you must have apoplexy at the grocery store and the gas station.

[post="279686"][/post]​

And let's also not forget that many employees now travel free in coach, so it isn't like anyone is "forcing" someone to sit up in F or C. If the flight is full, and you don't want to pay the upgrade surcharge, then wait for the next flight or connect somewhere else.

Or you can just drive if that's an option (but a little difficult to SJU!)...

 

[goingboeing]

I non-rev all the time.  With a little bit of flexibility and planning, I have never had a problem yet.  In close to 20 years, I have never had to over night and I can count on 1 hand the number of times I did not make my intended flight.  One year I calculated my non rev flight at regular rates based on the average 14 / 21 day adv fares and AA would have had to given me a 30% raise to pay for it. I’ll keep my travel bennies thank you very much.  I don’t see them going any where any time soon.

[post="279508"][/post]​

Yeah,but do you non-rev all the time out of TULSA? There are other stations than DFW or ORD in which non-reving has become a STRUGGLE.
As someone suggested I did a Texas vacation in March where I did drive[San Antonio and Corpus Christi] 3years ago I would have flown to these destinations and rented a vehicle.Now it is too difficult to non-rev from Tulsa and for most Tulsa employees the non-rev "priviledge" is a pain in the ass.
I do not call going through security hassels,cancelled flights,and sitting in airports all day and night a priviledge.

 

[Wretched Wrench]

And let's also not forget that many employees now travel free in coach, so it isn't like anyone is "forcing" someone to sit up in F or C. If the flight is full, and you don't want to pay the upgrade surcharge, then wait for the next flight or connect somewhere else.

[post="279778"][/post]​

Oh, PLEEEZE! When ya gotta go, ya gotta go.

However, I do remember back in the sixties, when AA had "21 Club" and "Black Hawk Restaraunt" service in first class, at least one emplyee would check the menu to choose where he was going to fly on his days off.