Now This Is What I Call Seniiority!

[Justme]

Well, it looks like I won't be at the top of this MCO-PHX flight:

 

[Harry Callahan]

Well, it looks like I won't be at the top of this MCO-PHX flight:

Why would any one with that kind of seniority need to use sa1 ?

 

[Dog Wonder]

A retiree, I hope it is a retiree, gets two SA1 passes a year.

Go from SA4 to SA1.

The SA1P and First Class booking could also mean a retired, very senior, exec.

 

[wings396]

It would have to be someone that is retired. I am not aware of anyone still working with 55 years of service. Not to mention that they would be 73 years old assuming they started when they were 18. As far as Fleet Service is concerned, I believe the most senior person has a 1965 DOH. I did work with a few guys at my former station that had 1956 to 1962 hire dates...

 

[xUT]

It would have to be someone that is retired. I am not aware of anyone still working with 55 years of service. Not to mention that they would be 73 years old assuming they started when they were 18. As far as Fleet Service is concerned, I believe the most senior person has a 1965 DOH. I did work with a few guys at my former station that had 1956 to 1962 hire dates...

IIRC, didn't the executive class give themselves super seniority? Tilton walked in with 20 years from day none.

 

[Phoenix]

It would have to be someone that is retired. I am not aware of anyone still working with 55 years of service. Not to mention that they would be 73 years old assuming they started when they were 18. As far as Fleet Service is concerned, I believe the most senior person has a 1965 DOH. I did work with a few guys at my former station that had 1956 to 1962 hire dates...

Don't the senior management folks get like retro super seniority of 40+ years, in addition to their key to the executive bathroom, a company BMWs, a company Mercedes, 5 cups of Starbucks per day, and 2 months of vacations at luxury resorts from Hawaii to Brussels... oh, wait, thats the White House lawn boy assistant employment signing bonus.

 

[Dog Wonder]

I didn't think Kirby had time to mow the White House lawn.

He does have experience at Parker's house.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

It would have to be someone that is retired. I am not aware of anyone still working with 55 years of service. Not to mention that they would be 73 years old assuming they started when they were 18. As far as Fleet Service is concerned, I believe the most senior person has a 1965 DOH. I did work with a few guys at my former station that had 1956 to 1962 hire dates...

There is an F/A with over 50 years. Her picture rotates on the Hub Wings.

But it's sad that a retiree had to burn an SA1 pass to avoid boarding behind a new hire.

 

[Harry Callahan]

There is an F/A with over 50 years. Her picture rotates on the Hub Wings.

But it's sad that a retiree had to burn an SA1 pass to avoid boarding behind a new hire.

I agree. I suppose this can be debated but I've always felt the retired should fly under their doh & not be kicked to sa4. Lord willing my turn will come soon.

 

[Beancounter]

I agree. I suppose this can be debated but I've always felt the retired should fly under their doh & not be kicked to sa4. Lord willing my turn will come soon.

I disagree. That new hire is probably working with a tough schedule, low pay, family, and ?????????? The new hire is also a current employee. The retired person, is just that retired. My parents are both retired and have all the time in the world to happily sit in an airport, reading books and sipping coffee. Maybe my parents are in a better position because they retired making over 200k a year and have pensions. Maybe that skews my opinion, but that's how I see it.

 

[BoeingBoy]

You have to remember that most retirees weren't making anywhere near that much before retirement and their pension was taken over by the PBGC, cutting what would have been a middle income living in retirement to qualifying for food stamps. Somehow, I and every other East employee got by boarding after retirees since long before AWA was around.

Personally, despite the changes, I still have a comfortable standard of living and don't have to work to make ends meet. But I expect that those like me will be the exception rather than the rule going forward. Although they won't be working for US after retirement, many retirees will be working somewhere and have the same time/schedule constraints as any new hire.

Jim

 

[nevergiveup]

You have to remember that most retirees weren't making anywhere near that much before retirement and their pension was taken over by the PBGC, cutting what would have been a middle income living in retirement to qualifying for food stamps. Somehow, I and every other East employee got by boarding after retirees since long before AWA was around.

Personally, despite the changes, I still have a comfortable standard of living and don't have to work to make ends meet. But I expect that those like me will be the exception rather than the rule going forward. Although they won't be working for US after retirement, many retirees will be working somewhere and have the same time/schedule constraints as any new hire.

Jim

But didn't the money they were making have more buying power?

 

[Beancounter]

You have to remember that most retirees weren't making anywhere near that much before retirement and their pension was taken over by the PBGC, cutting what would have been a middle income living in retirement to qualifying for food stamps. Somehow, I and every other East employee got by boarding after retirees since long before AWA was around.

Personally, despite the changes, I still have a comfortable standard of living and don't have to work to make ends meet. But I expect that those like me will be the exception rather than the rule going forward. Although they won't be working for US after retirement, many retirees will be working somewhere and have the same time/schedule constraints as any new hire.

Jim

I didn't know that was how the east previously did boarding priority.

Unfortunately I agree about future retirees. I know a retired United pilot who is now sim instructing to make money. My wife has a pension, already vested and even keeps adding to it working part time. I of course have no pension. I'm in my late 30's and when I sit down to plan out retirement it's depressing. With 401k's, Roth IRAs, and some other investments I have, there is just no way to compensate for a decent pension. There is too much risk in the stock market. Best thing I guess is to enjoy you're job and keep doing it until they drag you off. I think I'm getting more cynical the older I get.

 

[BoeingBoy]

But didn't the money they were making have more buying power?

True for everyone over enough time - at least dollar for dollar. Count in concessions and loss of pension, and the decreasing buying power of each dollar is compounded - less dollars each worth less. Which is why most retirees, who made much less than 6 figures in the best of times, won't have the retirement income they envisioned having and will be working after retiring from US. How many, that had expected a livable retirement, will be getting $1000-$2000/month from the PBGC?

Jim

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Under Nic, isn't a west FO still senior to him?