You asked for an example of how labor can have more protection under bankruptcy; I gave you two.
In practice they dont have more protection, in fact they have less because the court seems to think that they have the right to conficate proprty into the future and not just write off at risk credit.
(P.S. Life is not fair.)
But the law is supposed to be. If not then people are morally right to disobey it.
By name, no, because I have not been following NW's unsecured creditors very closely. But the companies on the USC are owed money by NW and/or expect to lose a lot due to dealings with NW.
Arent the unions on the USC?
Eh? They have money owed to them but it doesn't mean they haven't been paid or lost anything? Which is it?
Both. It depends on what the terms of payment are. If the payments are up to date but there is still a balance then they may have money owed to them but still have not lost anything.
So apparently your position is indeed that unsecured creditors don't get hurt in a bankruptcy filing.
No, thats not what I said. I said who has been stiffed in this case at NWA? Who has been told, other than workers, that they must continue to provide their product at terms that they did not agree to?
Yes, and I have agreed with you before on this point, that in some ways labor has it worse off than creditors.
Labor is a creditor.Thats why they are part of the USC.
Rememeber the point I have been trying to make that labor and other contracts are treated differently in BK? Sometimes that benefits labor; sometimes it does not.
OK but lets go back to why 1113 was put in place. When Continental used BK to throw out the contracts Labor balked at it and the government responded with 1113. The intent, the selling point, was that it would give labor contracts more protection and prevent companies from using BK as a maens to bust labor contracts, obviosly the courts no longer look at it that way.
OK so sect 1113 did not live up to its promise, but that still doesnt change anything as far as the right to strike which is not covered under the BK code because its covered under the RLA. On the issue of strikes and labors reaction to an abrogated contract, the sect 1113 is silent, just as its silent as to how other creditors can react to an abrogated agreement because the established fact is that if there is no consentual agreement both parties have the right to withdraw.