Obama's War on Women

[Ms Tree]

Get it right Tree! Republicans don't want to deny control over their own bodies! They just want to stop them from killing their own babies! And if that remark about birth control had anything to do with Hobby lobby, they are, and have been, providing 16 different types of
birth control to their employees. ------ But don't let the facts get in your way tree!
What's the matter Dog?------- You jealous?

So you are in favor of denying abortions is all cases?
 
HL has not been providing anything, they have been paying for insurance that covers it.

 

[Dog Wonder]

What's the matter Dog?------- You jealous?

I always wanted to be a miserable misanthrope, how do you guys do it?

 

[MCI transplant]

So you are in favor of denying abortions is all cases?
 
HL has not been providing anything, they have been paying for insurance that covers it.

Did I say that?-------- Personally, Three exceptions, rape, incense, or if it endangers the Mothers physical life. And there are good arguments for eliminating the first two!  ------ But that's just me.-----And yes, their insurance pays for it! The only birth control drugs they objected to were the type that aborted something that had already begun, such as the " mourning after pill". -------- Hey! There are consequences to actions we take in life! And if that turns out to be an unwanted pregnancy, so be it! That's one of the main problems we have today! There is no accountability! We always want to take the easy way out! And it's always someone else' s fault! -------- Just ask President Obama!!!!

 

[Ms Tree]

Ok. So you too are willing to kill babies for what you think are appropriate reasons. Yes, that is just you but why do you or government get to make that choice for someone else? By the way, Paul Ryan want no exceptions.

Why is the mothers life more valuable than that of the fetus? Why should a fetus of rape or incest be killed? What did the fetus do? As far as I am concerned the second anyone says you can kill a fetus because off "x" you lose credibility when they say you cannot do it because of "y". Who put you in charge? At least Ryan is consistent.

The morning after pill does not cause an abortion. Even Christianity Today acknowledged that.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/may/does-plan-b-cause-abortion.html?paging=off#bmb=1

 

[MCI transplant]

Ok. So you too are willing to kill babies for what you think are appropriate reasons. Yes, that is just you but why do you or government get to make that choice for someone else? By the way, Paul Ryan want no exceptions.

Why is the mothers life more valuable than that of the fetus? Why should a fetus of rape or incest be killed? What did the fetus do? As far as I am concerned the second anyone says you can kill a fetus because off "x" you lose credibility when they say you cannot do it because of "y". Who put you in charge? At least Ryan is consistent.

The morning after pill does not cause an abortion. Even Christianity Today acknowledged that.
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2013/may/does-plan-b-cause-abortion.html?paging=off#bmb=1

You asked me how i felt on the subject,------ I told you. Now you can try and spin that anyway you want. But that don't excuse the thousands that are killed yearly for nothing more than, "it would be inconvenient at this time"!!! As for HL, I believe the Supreme Court ruled on that one, didn't they? 

 

[Ms Tree]

You asked me how i felt on the subject,------ I told you. Now you can try and spin that anyway you want. But that don't excuse the thousands that are killed yearly for nothing more than, "it would be inconvenient at this time"!!! As for HL, I believe the Supreme Court ruled on that one, didn't they?

Yes you did but people are trying to impose how they feel about something on others who do not feel the same way. Someone elses reason is no less valid than any other reason.

Yep they did rule and as Ginsburg pointed out I think it will bite them in the ass. I was not even referring to the HL decision. Just pointed out that the morning after pill does not cause abortions so there is no reason to be against it any more than condomns.

 

[MCI transplant]

So, what your saying is that there is nothing wrong with killing babies, as long as it's the mother who does so? There is no accountability for doing so? Nothing?-------- But believe me tree, those who do so will have to answer to someone, someday, higher than themselves! And yes, tree! This is something I do believe! ------- But than again, that's just me!

 

[Ms Tree]

Basically yes. Her body her rules.

What you believe is up to you. It's when those beliefs get forced on others that I have an issue.

 

[traderjake]

Basically yes. Her body her rules.

 
The baby is not her body, it has different DNA.
 
If the mother wants to shot herion that's OK too under your moral code?

 

[Ms Tree]

The fetus lives in and is dependent upon the mothers body.  Her body, her rules.
 
Yes.  I do not like it nor agree with it but what gives you the right to tell a woman what she may or may not do?  I work with a woman in her mid 20's who is morbidly obese and is now pregnant.  Shall we out law that as well for the benefit of the child?  Given your concern for the well being of the fetus I imagine you are in favor of mandatory prenatal care for all expectant mothers?  What child care programs are you in favor of mandating for all children?  I am glad you are an advocate of Ms Obama's school meal programs.  I am sure she appreciates your support.

 

[MCI transplant]

Hey Trees, Have you ever heard of the concept called "ADOPTION"?

 

[eolesen]

The fetus lives in and is dependent upon the mothers body.

So, you admit that a fetus is life? Glad we cleared that one up.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

So, you admit that a fetus is life? Glad we cleared that one up.

Don't use logic on a liberal, they hate that.

 

[Ms Tree]

Hey Trees, Have you ever heard of the concept called "ADOPTION"?

That still requires that a woman carry the fetus to term.

 

[Ms Tree]

So, you admit that a fetus is life? Glad we cleared that one up.

It is alive but legally it is not a person.

Ryan was trying to pass a bill that declared life starts at conception. I wonder how that would work if a fetus was killed? Does the mother get charged with a capital crime and face execution?