Well, let's see...MiAAmi said:Our LAX to LAS flights will have one less competitor come spring. Jetblue to discontinue LGB to LAS flights this spring.
Boy, your bitter! How about the glass is half full sometimes!jimntx said:Well, let's see...
1. AA has 3 flights a day LAX-LAS. 2 S80s and 1 757.
2. If you want to go AE there are 3 flights also, but they require a change of planes in SJC!
3. According to Orbitz there are at least 6 airlines flying this route who beat AA's price and United matches the fare that AA charges. This is 6 airlines in addition to JetBlue because they don't sell tickets on Orbitz.
One less competitor; gee, I guess our financial troubles are over!
Wrong. I am not in the least bit bitter. I just fail to see any purpose to your original post. If United quit flying from DFW or ORD to DEN, it would be a MAJOR financial boost for us. But, LAX-LAS???? We're talking 3 friggin flights a day.MiAAmi said:Boy, your bitter! How about the glass is half full sometimes!
I'm sorry that you think that I would take pleasure in anyones misfortunes because I don't. Could you point out the misfortune that I am supposedly taking pleasure in? Anything that provides AMR more revenue whether its B6 pulling its LGB to LAS flights or anything else is better for AA. At this point we will take what we can get. The fact that AA can get more money for their seats than the LLC's is good news no matter how you slice it.jimntx said:Wrong. I am not in the least bit bitter. I just fail to see any purpose to your original post. If United quit flying from DFW or ORD to DEN, it would be a MAJOR financial boost for us. But, LAX-LAS???? We're talking 3 friggin flights a day.
If anyone is negative, it would be you. You only seem to take pleasure in the misfortune of other airlines. The way to be better than someone else is not to tear that person/company down and to crow about their failures, it's to BE BETTER than they.
The truth is that the bad attitude of the currently working AA flight attendants is going to hurt us a lot more than the competition of other airlines. I've been doing a good bit of non-rev flying, and I am appalled at the actions and attitudes of some of the working f/a's. Airing our dirty linen to the customers is not going to win us any supporters. Most people have their own problems. They don't want to hear yours in detail and ad nauseum. And,. don't get your knickers in a twist, I didn't say you are doing it, but a lot of your co-workers ARE doing it.
That's just the point. We AIN'T gettin the revenue. If you go to the non-rev travel planner you can book yourself a flight from LAX to LAS almost any day of the week. All 3 flights are wide open. Try the same thing on DFW-LAS. Now, there's a market that we dominate.MiAAmi said:The fact that AA can get more money for their seats than the LLC's is good news no matter how you slice it.
I did. I went to the non-rev travel planner and to AA.com and put in several different dates. Remember, I don't have direct access to Sabre. But then, AA saying a seat was available when it wasn't wouldn't be that big a surprise, now would it?MiAAmi said:Just checked sabre LAS to LAX 2 of 3 flights full. 3rd close to full. Please check your facts before you post.
Well, even with all those "failures", in 2003 JetBlue had the highest increase in revenue passenger miles, available seat miles and number of passengers boarded of any mainline airline. (I use the term mainline as a way of including majors and LCCs in a category that excludes the regionals.) Which means they are growing.LiveInAHotel said:First, they tried to compete against Delta LGB-ATL (Delta LAX-ATL) and pulled out. Then they tried to compete against Southwest, America West, American and Northwest LGB-LAS (Southwest LAX-LAS, SNA-LAS, BUR-LAS and ONT-LAS, America West LAX-LAS, SNA-LAS and ONT-LAS, American LAX-LAS and Northwest LAX-LAS) and pulled out. It looks like JetBlue can't take the heat so once again they're getting out of the kitchen! Can't wait until they try to fly into ORD!! 🙄
Add in HP's flights in those same markets and it's over 75 daily RTs...Royal Ambassador said:WN alone offers 15 weekday round trips between LAX and LAS, 12 between BUR and LAS, 10 between ONT and LAS and 3 between SNA and LAS. If my math skills are up to par that is a total of 50 round trips a day between Southern California (excluding SAN) and Las Vegas.
This should help put the JetBlue pullout from the LGB - LAS market in perspective.