Pick Your Station

[WingNaPrayer]

Eagle or Main, and I'll probably add to my own list from time to time but so far I'm betting on closures for:

Colorado Springs
Fort Lauderdale
Tampa
San Antonio
Syracuse


A couple of others come to mind but I haven't decided whether or not I think they'll close (or possibly go outsource)

Feel free to add your guesses to the list.

 

[BigBangTheory]

You're wrong on SAT and TPA.

 

[PRINCESS KIDAGAKASH]

You're wrong on SAT and TPA.

After the TWO year contract Concession is voted in, It's very possible that SAT and TPA will be "Eagled" along with DEN,MSP, and maybe even AUS. Basically any station that doesn't have International flights could be history.

 

[DFWFSC]

After the TWO year contract Concession is voted in, It's very possible that SAT and TPA will be "Eagled" along with DEN,MSP, and maybe even AUS. Basically any station that doesn't have International flights could be history.

I think SAT/AUS/DEN/TPA are safe from being all Eagle, at least until Eagle ends up getting a 100 seater someday, then you'll see a lot of AA-mainline stations go all AE.

TPA is a little far and has enough volume to keep mainline, plus they would most likely have to use the CRJ-700 TPA-DFW, and there just isn't enough of them to go around..25 is all they have in the fleet. Now they could make MIA-TPA all AE, then cut back mainline to DFW/ORD enough to outsource the station.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

I'm pretty sure SAT has a "station protection" clause, providing there are FTers who have been there since 2/11/83, and have never left.

 

[Watdahail?]

After the TWO year contract Concession is voted in, It's very possible that SAT and TPA will be "Eagled" along with DEN,MSP, and maybe even AUS. Basically any station that doesn't have International flights could be history.

TPA still has SJU flights..I dont see that going eagle and FLL has international...AUS..too much bread and butter for that station to go eagle.. SAT/MSP..most likely I think

 

[eolesen]

Colorado Springs
Fort Lauderdale
Tampa
San Antonio
Syracuse

SYR was already announced, no?

Last time I checked, SAT was the third largest city in Texas after Houston and DFW Metro, and still one of the fastest growing in the US. I wouldn't expect it to close.

FLL and TPA? Don't think so.

Agree on COS.

I'll add PDX, FAT, RNO, and PBI.

If BA/AA/IB get immunity, it wouldn't surprise me to see some AA cuts at BCN and MAD in favor of IB flying.

 

[AEWRON ONE]

I think SAT/AUS/DEN/TPA are safe from being all Eagle, at least until Eagle ends up getting a 100 seater someday, then you'll see a lot of AA-mainline stations go all AE.

TPA is a little far and has enough volume to keep mainline, plus they would most likely have to use the CRJ-700 TPA-DFW, and there just isn't enough of them to go around..25 is all they have in the fleet. Now they could make MIA-TPA all AE, then cut back mainline to DFW/ORD enough to outsource the station.

I'm new here, it seem's most of you have a little inside info. and insight as to how things will unfold, so if you can, tell me where EAGLE comes into play at these stations after being divested, or sold?

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

I'm new here, it seem's most of you have a little inside info. and insight as to how things will unfold, so if you can, tell me where EAGLE comes into play at these stations after being divested, or sold?

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Sure, be glad to.

AA can put AE into any station they wish, while pulling AA out.
But of course, at a station like JFK(for example), with ALL those Wonderful Wide Body a/c flying to "far away" places, It's virtually Impossible to do that.

Then there is the Issue of "Station protected full time "AA" employees, that "usually" keep AA from swapping to A/E, however I personally witnessed PIT flying all Rj's, but still had 1-2 station protected ol' timers there, working in the "bag room", shortly after AA resumed S-80 fling to DFW.

Then there is the Issue of a station of NON.."SP" AAers(99% of the time a small..to..small-medium sized station).
Those stations can "outsource" the AA workers...whether they go ALL A/E or a mix of Mainline+A/E, depending the number of annual AA mainline(only) flights.

Then there's the station that may still have ALL Mainline(usually 3/4 flights a day to DFW), have NO protected guys, PDX..perfect example, but fall Below the Contract "staffing levels" that require AA to staff with TWU guys.

Finally(think ORF) there are stations..NOT on the "SP" list, who have NEVER had a TWU person in it, and continue on with business as usual.

(I think I've covered most of it for you)

PS, there have been a few Examples of MALFESANCE(think ALB/SYR/ROC/BUF) where AA pulled all main line out(for A/E)....the station was "SP-ed", there were guys up there WITH "SP", who SOMEHOW went SILENTLY AWAY to retireement, or OTHER STATIONS (think some kind of "PAYOLA")

Also, back in the late 90's, AA re-opened MDW, without TWU, and......SURPRISE, NO ONE said a PEEP(about re-staffing of AA/TWU)

A/E IS TWU in ORD, so don't confuse the issue, but by the contract ORD/MDW are a "one station" AA Mainline rule policy.

One station rule, is a story for another day.

 

[DFWFSC]

The one station that has me puzzled is MEM. They have a couple of station protected guys still there, but they could have made it all Eagle a long time ago. They have 4-5 MD-80's to DFW and all the rest is AE, which the AA's FSC's work. They could have made DFW-MEM all AE's CRJ-700's, maybe 7-8 a day.
I did hear something about AA having some sort of deal with FedEX and deadheading their crews out west to AFW and elsewhere, and needed the extra room of the MD-80's. In return, this is why AA employees get a nice discount on FedEX shipping?? Anybody else know if this is the case? Do all Fedex employees get NRSA travel on AA or any other airlines?

 

[jj]

Ill add STL to the all EAGLE handled work.Sounds crazy but watch it somehow work out.Its to save the "hub" ha ha.

 

[formeraa]

When I checked a few days ago, it appeared that there were going to be 18 - 20 nonstops from SAT - DFW all on Super 80's this winter. That doesn't exactly sound like a station that will be going to AE, Wing! At least, do a little research before spouting off rumors.

 

[WingNaPrayer]

Nobody said it was a "rumor" I said it was my own list of stations that I was betting on. You're not the first to disagree with SAT.

 

[tadjr]

? Do all Fedex employees get NRSA travel on AA or any other airlines?

I've seen FedEx employees on passes before. Not sure if its just pilots or everyone. They have to get the passes from their pass bureau. Also, they give shipping discounts to US employees as well.

 

[Kev3188]

NWA employees get a discount on Fed Ex as well....