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Heard that the plan was to hire about 100 pilots by the end of the year.
Can anyone confirm this?
Can anyone confirm this?
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Fly said:
Thanks for the link
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It's not been determined whether the newhires will be from the pool or furloughees. As it stands the hiring isn't supposed to start until after the deal closes after which it would be appropriate to hire only furloughees.N924PS said:
autofixer said:
Autofixer,
maybe, maybe not.....only former Captains would be typed by US in the 737/320...and while certainly having already flown the aircraft should make for an easier requal for the respective pilot, if they have been off the aircraft type for a certain amount of time, they would have to go thru the "full course". Plus they would have to learn the America West way of flying. Flows/ Checklists/Company procedures would be different form US. So no cost saved there versus an "off the street" pilot.
At UAL our returning furloughees, depending on time away and what equipment, may either get a "short" course or the full monty....Anything over two years away from the same plane requires a full course. Anything less than 2 years can be modified/ shortened.
And as far as insurance costs go.....as long as a pilot passes muster with the FAA approved training, it doesnt matter if one has 1000 hours or 10 in type, since the insurance company wouldn't know on a flight by flight basis the logbook of a pilot.
just my perspective.
DC
vsi0 said:
SO US type rates pretty much all their F/O's? One might consider that an added expense since it is not required by FARs. But if I was given the same opportunity I would opt for it too.
Yes, flying is the same....a takeoff is a takeoff and so on....but the FAA gets a lil pesky about making sure the box is checked and doesnt care if you can do a V1 cut at US or UAL or anywhere else.....you have to prove you can do it at America West.
I'd imagine trying to combine the respective Flight Manuals and Flight Operations handbooks is gonna be a pain in the butt for whoever has to do that work. Any idea if there will be a complete rewrite? Or will they take HP's (or US's) and make that the master?
DC
DC,
It's really not any added expense to type the FO's at US. The initial check-ride for Capt and FO's are the same except for which seat you sit in. Seat support for the initial ride is with an instructor. (either left or right seat)
The theory is/was you are going to be a Captain eventually, might as well do the type the first time you go through initial.
Probationary FO's are not given the option unless required, 757/767 or 330 due to international ops.
Just a guess, but I imagine 50% or more of the furloughed US pilots, (myself included) are typed in either the 737/320 or both. Those who are not, are most likely typed on the DC9/MD80 or F100.
The only furloughed US pilots that most likely don't have a type in any of the above equipment, got furloughed before they had a chance to change equipment.
It's really not any added expense to type the FO's at US. The initial check-ride for Capt and FO's are the same except for which seat you sit in. Seat support for the initial ride is with an instructor. (either left or right seat)
The theory is/was you are going to be a Captain eventually, might as well do the type the first time you go through initial.
Probationary FO's are not given the option unless required, 757/767 or 330 due to international ops.
Just a guess, but I imagine 50% or more of the furloughed US pilots, (myself included) are typed in either the 737/320 or both. Those who are not, are most likely typed on the DC9/MD80 or F100.
The only furloughed US pilots that most likely don't have a type in any of the above equipment, got furloughed before they had a chance to change equipment.
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Many of the F/Os that were not typed originally were brought back last year and given a short course for the type rating. Much of the Carribean and Central American flying require it. All pilots coming through the Airbus courses are typed now.
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A320 Driver said:
A320 and Smfav8r,
Thanks for the info.
Interesting about the 320 requirements for a type rating to the Carrib and Central America. Not a requirement here at UAL. Only F/O types are for 767 and larger for the international flying (Europe/Deep South America/Asia-Pacific).
DC
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Reason for the typed FO's on Central America and Carribean is to have an augmented crew in International Ops.
With a Captain, FO and IRO..(typed FO) you can due turns down south from CLT and PHL.....Using the 8 to 12 hour regulations for augmented crew's in International Ops.
So one crew can fly day trips to Aruba out of PHL.....about 10 to 11 hours of block and a day trip. Long day, but nice pay and you can do 2 a week and be done.
Not sure if U's crew planning is doing this yet, but that's the reasoning behind it.
Most pax non-sched's do this during the winter season. (Ryan, Transmed, Miami Air, etc)
Reason for the typed FO's on Central America and Carribean is to have an augmented crew in International Ops.
With a Captain, FO and IRO..(typed FO) you can due turns down south from CLT and PHL.....Using the 8 to 12 hour regulations for augmented crew's in International Ops.
So one crew can fly day trips to Aruba out of PHL.....about 10 to 11 hours of block and a day trip. Long day, but nice pay and you can do 2 a week and be done.
Not sure if U's crew planning is doing this yet, but that's the reasoning behind it.
Most pax non-sched's do this during the winter season. (Ryan, Transmed, Miami Air, etc)
smfav8r said:
Ok I can understand that reasoning......I know AMR does the same. So far we at UAL (the powers that be) havent done that. On our Chicago to Aruba and San Juan flights they DH a crew down to fly back, and the crew that flies down DH's back.
WOW! only 2 days per week? Careful, some people might start believing in the pilots are overpaid and underworked BS. 😉
DC
