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And I am talking about the office.  The experience of the office holder does not seem to be relate to the performance of the individual.  We have had presidents with various back grounds and all of them sucked to one degree or another.  
 
Obama not having business or military experience did not make him any worse/better than those who did have business or military background.
 
MCI transplant said:
That my friend is debatable!!!
Of course it is.  These are opinions.  They are always debatable.
 
All this is beside the point.  The question is if having an advanced education is better than not having one.  I think it is.
 
Ms Tree said:
Bush was a governor and a businesses owner using daddy's money and connections.  Clinton was a governor. H Bush used daddy's money and connections to get in the oil business and then went into politics. Reagan was an 'B" actor and governor of CA (screwed that place up pretty good).  Carter owned his own farm and was a governor.  .... They all did a bang up job for all their experience.  
 
Don't mention Obama getting it all for free through affirmative action programs.......
 
 
Who's your Daddy.......
 
Ms Tree said:
Of course it is.  These are opinions.  They are always debatable.
 
All this is beside the point.  The question is if having an advanced education is better than not having one.  I think it is.
Tree, aren't we being a little hypercritical ?-------- obama has been in office seven years now, and he has a few high end degrees, which he didn't pay for!------ But the reality of it is the world is gone to hell in a hand basket, for lack of leadership! Look around! Things have gone to hell because he refuses to acknowledge that there are religious extremists out there that have vowed to plate their black flag over the White House, and kill all Christians, and Jews!------ That would be you Tree, and myself! Now, as a veteran, and Christian, I take that personal! And has done the bare minimum to stop them! obama in my opinion it's because he wants to kill the least number of fellow Muslims as possible!  Domestically, obama has attempted to legalize 5+ million people for political gain, who are in this country illegally, that are taking American jobs, and driving down wages!.The middle class is shrinking at an alarming rate! He has increased our national debt. by more than all ihe other of our previous Presidents combined!------ The unemployment rate is at a realistic 11.5 %, and would be higher if you count all those under employed because of obamacare! And the list goes on and on! ------- All this from a Harvard grad!!! I doubt a college dropout could do much worse!!!
 
Fire in the hole!

On 2/13 700 talked about a stupid topic about SH's hero. Today Obama comes into play. BRILLIANT!
 
Tree, aren't we being a little hypercritical ?-------- obama has been in office seven years now, and he has a few high end degrees, which he didn't pay for!------ But the reality of it is the world is gone to hell in a hand basket, for lack of leadership! Look around! Things have gone to hell because he refuses to acknowledge that there are religious extremists out there that have vowed to plate their black flag over the White House, and kill all Christians, and Jews!------ That would be you Tree, and myself! Now, as a veteran, and Christian, I take that personal! And has done the bare minimum to stop them! obama in my opinion it's because he wants to kill the least number of fellow Muslims as possible!  Domestically, obama has attempted to legalize 5+ million people for political gain, who are in this country illegally, that are taking American jobs, and driving down wages!.The middle class is shrinking at an alarming rate! He has increased our national debt. by more than all ihe other of our previous Presidents combined!------ The unemployment rate is at a realistic 11.5 %, and would be higher if you count all those under employed because of obamacare! And the list goes on and on! ------- All this from a Harvard grad!!! I doubt a college dropout could do much worse!!!
Interesting. And I'm not going to get into the 'heavy' crap. Heard about the Stockholm syndrome?

http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Stockholm+syndrome

It first was noted during the Holocaust. You know what happens when a snake hunts another snake? The predator knows where his victim is and the victim knows that he is doomed.

Come to your own conclusions and see why some really are in it for themselves. Remember years ago when the Israelis were shocked that it was their own selling ammunition to the Palestinians?

I wasn't. nuf sed.

Although fully quoted, concentrate on "THAT WOULD BE YOU TREE" to get the full impact.
 
FYI.   Only about 20% of Congress holds a degree in economics or business.  That might be a big reason why they cannot get the budget under control.  They do not know jack about econimics.
Economy 101...If you have the money you win the elections and then you can hire and give jobs to economists and business people.

Welcome to the USA!
 
BA from Columbia and law degree from Harvard. But you already knew that. You also know that I did not vote for Obama but against Romney and McCain. You also know that I believe just because someone has a formal education does not necessarily mean they are qualified to be President or CEO.

My point is that someone who does have advanced degree(s) is in my opinion more qualified for any given position than someone who does not.
Believe it or not, most politicians degrees are in law. That is what really matters, since most politicians have experience in the laws of the land and can deal with the laws and loopholes in the Constitution.
 
Frame it anyway you choose. I believe McCain and Romney would have been worse for the country.
Only because they aren't on the same page as you.

Go ahead. Prove me wrong.
 
MCI transplant said:
Tree, aren't we being a little hypercritical ?-------- obama has been in office seven years now, and he has a few high end degrees, which he didn't pay for!------ But the reality of it is the world is gone to hell in a hand basket, for lack of leadership! Look around! Things have gone to hell because he refuses to acknowledge that there are religious extremists out there that have vowed to plate their black flag over the White House, and kill all Christians, and Jews!------ That would be you Tree, and myself! Now, as a veteran, and Christian, I take that personal! And has done the bare minimum to stop them! obama in my opinion it's because he wants to kill the least number of fellow Muslims as possible!  Domestically, obama has attempted to legalize 5+ million people for political gain, who are in this country illegally, that are taking American jobs, and driving down wages!.The middle class is shrinking at an alarming rate! He has increased our national debt. by more than all ihe other of our previous Presidents combined!------ The unemployment rate is at a realistic 11.5 %, and would be higher if you count all those under employed because of obamacare! And the list goes on and on! ------- All this from a Harvard grad!!! I doubt a college dropout could do much worse!!!
Your post has nothing to do with what I am talking about.  All I was talking about is that given a choice between two people, one with an advanced degree and the other without one, I am more likely to go for the one with an advanced degree.  They are more likely to have better critical thinking skills, a more diverse knowledge base ...etc.  The military will not promote to officer without a degree.  An over whelming majority of the Fortune 500 comapany execs have advanced degrees, many have more than one.  The point being is that Scott Walker did not finish college and given the standard of the military, Fortune 500 companies and all the sitting presidents for the past 50 plus years he is not qualified.
 
As for the other issues, sufice to say things have been going tits up long before Obama got to the helm.  The terroists have been killing people long before Obama took office as well.  The hijacked 4 planes and killed a few people a few years back.  Invading Iraq and Afghanistan did not deter them nor did it make them like us any more.  Neither party is interesting in fixing the immigration issue.  Nothing happens when the dems are in charge and nothign happens when the repub are in charge.  Nothing happens because the parties and their supporters likeit that way.  The party not in poswer will rant and rave about the party in power not doing anything.  Fixing the imigration problem is an easy fix.  Go ofter the job providers.  Not jobs, not illegal imigrants.  Problem solved.  Why do you think they are not doing that?  As far as the debt is concerned, may economists (and I agree with them) have said that not enough was spent to spur the economy.  The US economy is not a house hold economy.  My big issue is that the money should have gone to the middle class instead of the banks and corporations.  We are the ones who need the money to spend to spur the economy.  There is no way to know what would have happened had McCain or Romney been elected.  As far as the economy is concerned, I don't think anyone would have done any better.  I think if Romney were elected and he let the auto makers fail we would have been in much worse condition.  But as I said, no way to know.
 
Tree,Tree,Tree, we agree on more than you know. The fact of the matter is obama didn't start all this, but he's had seven years to do something about it, and has done absolutly nothing! In fact things things have gotten worse!!! Mucn worse!!!
 
MCI transplant said:
Tree,Tree,Tree, we agree on more than you know. The fact of the matter is obama didn't start all this, but he's had seven years to do something about it, and has done absolutly nothing! In fact things things have gotten worse!!! Mucn worse!!!
 
 
It's very easy to destroy something,   Takes a very long tome to rebuild it.
 
Yep. And it's going to take decades to recover from Obama's reign as King.

Go ahead and convince yourself that the pedigree is important in order to lead, Tree. Vote that way as well if you want. What I know is that everything I've accomplished in my career could have been done just as easily without the degree, although I have no doubt that without it, I might not have gone as far as I did. Not because of a lack of ability, but because of small minded people who think a piece of paper is essential to be able to lead others.

The picketing of Walker's 70 year old parents this weekend, the seeking out of his high school science teacher (also in their 70's) to try and gauge his views on evolution vs. creationism... It all seems a bit desperate on the part of the left, no?...

If nothing else, having the media digging up faux outrage stories on Walker, Christie and Paul (and which are being debunked almost as quickly as they pop up) is just going to make the primaries focused that much more on the issues and less about trying to find scandals where they don't exist.
 

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