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Republican controlled house says.."DEFUND Obamacare, or we're SHUTTING the GOVT. DOWN "

I love how you sit and judge everyone in the opposition party without knowing much about them other than what you've probably read in the HuffNPuff.

Frankly, I'll take Arpaio and Milwaukee Sheriff David Clarke over any clown currently in Washington. Flake's a Libertarian leaning conservative, which I'll take blindfolded over McCain.

It's not my fault McCain got re-elected... I wasn't living in AZ at the time, and the only guy to primary him was nutty even by Tea Party standards.

The only Democrat willing to run against McCain in the 2010 election was Rodney Glassman, then a 32 year old idiot savant who was born into some money, and whose main claim to fame was being a one-term city councilman in Tucson, running a charity, and writing a children's book... Glassman managed to win the primary with 34% of the vote in a 4 way race, which in turn lead to a recent ballot initiative requiring a runoff for anything resulting in less than 50% of the popular vote... it failed.
 
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If the people get to see what insurance for all, without prejudice is like. They might well be amazed. This it the fear of the GOP. If it happens, GOP is toast. If everything goes to hell in a handbasket, they will be able to say they told us so. And be dully elected for it.

So, you have to ask yourself, if your an elected GOP....

Is insurance bad for everyone that has it now?

Uh oh..... I see some 'splaining to do...... LMFAO..... ;-)
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It's almost as though you think "preexisting conditions" coverage and "insurance" are compatible things, as though you can "insure" something that already happened.

Stop calling it "insurance," it's class warfare wealth-spreading. If you can't even acknowledge (and actively avoid) the nature of your favored legislative program, you implicitly admit that it is corrupt and wrong.
 
Hilarious how all these BaRack-O-Care proponents will argue that right now we are paying for people who don't have insurance, that go to emergency rooms for care but, don't hear a peep about people who will receive "Vouchers" to pay for BaRack-O-Care...........either way "WE'RE" paying for it !
 
The money thrown at the "defund" last gasp will be rapidly cut off come 10/17. You will not hear a peep from the right wing noise machine after that.

The problem is that they have put all the green eggs and ham in one basket for 2014.

They will not be able to run on Obamacare because it will be popular with the vast majority of voters.
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
The money thrown at the "defund" last gasp will be rapidly cut off come 10/17. You will not hear a peep from the right wing noise machine after that.

The problem is that they have put all the green eggs and ham in one basket for 2014.

They will not be able to run on Obamacare because it will be popular with the vast majority of voters.
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Like the Unions, Congress, IRS and Fed employees?

Dude, you live in an alternate universe or what?

WASHINGTON, June 27 (Reuters) - A majority of Americans say President Barack Obama's healthcare overhaul will make things worse for their families and the nation overall, a poll released on Thursday found, highlighting the challenges his administration still faces in winning over the public.

Overall, the survey of nearly 2,050 adults showed 52 percent disapprove of the 2010 law aimed at expanding access to health insurance for millions of people, according to Gallup. Another 44 percent said they back the changes.
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Dude, wait until premium increases kill household budgets.
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
The money thrown at the "defund" last gasp will be rapidly cut off come 10/17. You will not hear a peep from the right wing noise machine after that.

The problem is that they have put all the green eggs and ham in one basket for 2014.

They will not be able to run on Obamacare because it will be popular with the vast majority of voters.
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You mean the vast majority of people looking for "Free Stuff"!
 
delldude said:
Like the Unions, Congress, IRS and Fed employees?

Dude, you live in an alternate universe or what?



Dude, wait until premium increases kill household budgets.
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Yeah dell....there's a problem there with the unions. Last time I worked for a union was in 1981. Back then, I didn't pay a dime for insurance. It was in our contract. But today....people who are used to paying nothing towards their health insurance are now being asked to pay a portion of the premium....much as I have done for the past 33 years. It's easy to see why they'd be pissed.
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
The money thrown at the "defund" last gasp will be rapidly cut off come 10/17. You will not hear a peep from the right wing noise machine after that.

The problem is that they have put all the green eggs and ham in one basket for 2014.

They will not be able to run on Obamacare because it will be popular with the vast majority of voters.
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As I understand it, the "glitch" is that if your employer covers you yourself at an "affordable" rate, but doesn't cover your spouse or children at all, you are deemed to have "affordable" coverage from your employer, and therefore aren't eligible for subsidies, even if the required insurance for your spouse and children might be anything but "affordable."

You might be paying $100/mo. for your own employer-provided insurance, but you might also have to pay $1200/mo. to ensure your spouse and children. For the purposes of calculating the subsidy (if any), all that matters is whether your own personal employer-provided insurance is "affordable." Insurance for any dependents you might have doesn't figure in the calculation.

If your employee contribution is more than ~9% of your household income, you can get subsidies to buy on the exchange instead. The problem is the bill specifies "individual" plan, which leave out "family" plans. So if your employee contribution to your family plan is more than ~9% of your household income, you aren't eligible for subsidies.

I don't think you have a complete understanding of the law as it is written and certainly not enough to proclaim that everyone will benefit from the bill or that it will be "popular". There will be large numbers of people who could not afford insurance to begin with but now are being fined for not having insurance they can't afford, exchange or no exchange.
 
Glenn Quagmire said:
The money thrown at the "defund" last gasp will be rapidly cut off come 10/17. You will not hear a peep from the right wing noise machine after that.

The problem is that they have put all the green eggs and ham in one basket for 2014.

They will not be able to run on Obamacare because it will be popular with the vast majority of voters.
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I like the framing exhibited by the term "defund." As if a government program inherently starts with funding, and then Congress might take it away. Of course, they're not "defunding" it; they're just not funding it.
 
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