State proposes work requirement for food stamps

[SparrowHawk]

Typical low class libtard.
 
I tried to help my coworkers get back to work and avoid financial hardship due to loss of earning power and he uses that to slap me in the face.
 
Glenn you are one low class, petty SoB.
 
So let's recap. Retraining and going back to work and being a productive member of society is BAD, but drawing entitlements for decades on end is GOOD.
 
Typical liberal mentality. They love their lifelong dependents. After all that is where the majority of their voting power lies.

 
 
Socialism that results in a temporary greater good is still socialism and by your acceptance of the money in question you have endorsed socialism as a proper role of government.
 
So that would mean that your answer to the following question would be?
 
Would you be willing to give up your favorite social program (training) if it meant you never had to pay income tax again?
 
By your actions the answer appears to be no.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

if it meant you never had to pay income tax again?

Only illegal aliens get that privilege in this country.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Only illegal aliens get that privilege in this country.

And CEOs

 

[SparrowHawk]

Only illegal aliens get that privilege in this country.

 
Answer the question please. Or is that to difficult? Maybe RNC Headquarters had a busy day and you couldn't get your talking points?

 

[777 fixer]

Would you be willing to give up your favorite social program (training) if it meant you never had to pay income tax again?
 
 

 
Would you be willing to give up unemployment, social security and medicare?

 

[SparrowHawk]

 
Would you be willing to give up unemployment, social security and medicare?

 
In the abstract I'd say yes.
 
The problem with that now is that people my age have paid Billions upon Billions into these programs and to stop them "Cold Turkey" would be wrong.
 
I think you slowly phase them out and reform them along the way. SS for example we have a 7.5% contribution from the employer. Perhaps we keep that in place in a 401k type vehicle? Or maybe we just phase it out period. 
 
When Government uses the power to confiscate and redistribute wealth it is an inherently unfair situation. As is Laissez-faire Capitalism has the same flaw so in the end it's a pick your poison dilemma. Me I fall on the Laissez-faire side of the street.

 

[777 fixer]

 
In the abstract I'd say yes.
 
The problem with that now is that people my age have paid Billions upon Billions into these programs and to stop them "Cold Turkey" would be wrong.
 
I think you slowly phase them out and reform them along the way. SS for example we have a 7.5% contribution from the employer. Perhaps we keep that in place in a 401k type vehicle? Or maybe we just phase it out period. 
 
When Government uses the power to confiscate and redistribute wealth it is an inherently unfair situation. As is Laissez-faire Capitalism has the same flaw so in the end it's a pick your poison dilemma. Me I fall on the Laissez-faire side of the street.

 
Sounds like a no to me.

 

[SparrowHawk]

 
Sounds like a no to me.

 
A qualified YES, I think would be more accurate. As a nation we've been told since 1935 that Social Security would be our safety net when we retired. As a Government I think we have to honor that pledge to all workers over say 45.
 
If I were 25 today instead of 60 I'd be jumping up and down to opt out. This is one of the reason half those who voted for Dr Paul were under 30. Dr. Paul has spoken on this topic many many times and I'm in total lockstep with him on this.

 

[eolesen]

So, you're OK giving up on something you're not vested in, but still don't want to give up on Medicare or Social Security?

Seems to me the hypocrisy label you're so quick to put on La di da may be a bit misplaced.

 

[SparrowHawk]

So, you're OK giving up on something you're not vested in, but still don't want to give up on Medicare or Social Security?

Seems to me the hypocrisy label you're so quick to put on La di da may be a bit misplaced.

 There needs to be a certain level of fairness. If you stopped those programs instantly you'd collapse the economy and possibly starve an entire generation.
 
Philosophically, It never should have been created and implemented. Same for the latest and not so greatest program called ObamaCare
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r98GT2uol_I

 

[777 fixer]

 There needs to be a certain level of fairness. If you stopped those programs instantly you'd collapse the economy and possibly starve an entire generation.
 
Philosophically, It never should have been created and implemented. Same for the latest and not so greatest program called ObamaCare
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r98GT2uol_I

 
So says the millionaire ex Congressman who does not have to worry about losing his retire medical, having his retirement butchered in BK court, or the stock market crashing.  Why, because he's a millionaire ex congressman whose benefits are untouchable.  If he really needs cash he can write a book or hit the lecture circuit and collect a hefty fee.
 
That's what gets me about people like you.  You never seem to ask yourself what would happen if someone like him got their way and how it would affect you.  More importantly how it would affect them.  It's rather obvious that he has nothing to worry about.  You on the other hand.......

 

[777 fixer]

 
A qualified YES, I think would be more accurate. As a nation we've been told since 1935 that Social Security would be our safety net when we retired. As a Government I think we have to honor that pledge to all workers over say 45.

 
What you are saying is yes for other people but not for you.  How noble.
 

If I were 25 today instead of 60 I'd be jumping up and down to opt out. This is one of the reason half those who voted for Dr Paul were under 30. Dr. Paul has spoken on this topic many many times and I'm in total lockstep with him on this.

 
Wonder what those twenty somethings will do when they get that first pink slip.  Or when they get close to retirement and they realize their company does not offer it anymore.  Or the stock market crashes like it did in 2008.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Eon Paul announced on several ocassions that he would not be taking his Congressional Pension. He has also returned just under half his pay as Congressman for most of his time in office. Further, on average he returned nearly 100,000 USD Of his office budget to the US Treasury.. So enough with the class warfare/envy. Dr. Paul is way way down the list of wealthy Congressmen. Dr. Paul became an OB-GYN without Student loans. His wife of 56 years worked to put him through college, the same as he did for her. He served as a Flight Surgeon in the Military. Raised his jids. See this used to be what was known as the American Dream. NOW, it's the American Blame, dog ate my homework excuse nation.
 
I have pondered what it would be like to grow old without Social Security and if there wasn't any there my entire life I would have made different decisions. In order for those coming up it must be changed as the demographics just don't work.

 

[777 fixer]

 So enough with the class warfare/envy. Dr. Paul is way way down the list of wealthy Congressmen.
 

 
It's not class warfare/envy.  It is a FACT.  It's a fact that he's a millionaire ex-Congressman who did not have his retirement cut in BK court and his retire medical eliminated.  He can always has the option to collect on a nice Congressional retirement along with the medical benefits.  If wants some extra cash he can write a book and hit the lecture circuit.  Here's another FACT.  People like you who claim your support for his views do not have that option.  So once again its real easy for him to say things like social security and medicare/medicaid are unconstitutional.
 

.I have pondered what it would be like to grow old without Social Security and if there wasn't any there my entire life I would have made different decisions. 

 
Like what?  Not get a job in the airline industry?

 

[SparrowHawk]

 
It's not class warfare/envy.  It is a FACT.  It's a fact that he's a millionaire ex-Congressman who did not have his retirement cut in BK court and his retire medical eliminated.  He can always has the option to collect on a nice Congressional retirement along with the medical benefits.  If wants some extra cash he can write a book and hit the lecture circuit.  Here's another FACT.  People like you who claim your support for his views do not have that option.  So once again its real easy for him to say things like social security and medicare/medicaid are unconstitutional.
 
 
Like what?  Not get a job in the airline industry?

 
 
So you admit that every dollar he has, he EARNED?
 
It's not his fault or mine that you ended up where you are. Like me you need only to look in the mirror to see who is ultimately responsible for our respective positions in life.. EVERYBODY (With notable exceptions for those who are born mentally or physically challenged) comes in to the world naked and leaves in a box or urn. What that individual does in between is largely at their own hand.
 
Opportunity is equal, outcome is not. When I see someone like a Rob Paul or Herman Cain I see admiration and a desire to learn how they did it. OTOH you see envy and jealousy and seek blame for your situation.
 
I AM to blame for my current situation, I should have anticipated the downsizing and made plans for more education and made more of an effort to retrain and rebrand myself. I should have never gotten involved with a reformed heroin addict. I did and now I pay the price. Actions like elections have consequences.