T-RUMP un-electable in 2020, if election held today (quote) Newsweek ! !

www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-2020-lose-election-poll-940169
(Can't get the link to work), BUT trust me, the article is new and real !
(Unless 'some' D - Shites think newsweek is Fake news) !

Not fake news, but I do notice in my news feed that their stories do tend to lean left quite a bit. Remember...we thought this clown was unelectable in 2016. Had the DNC not decided that HIllary was going to their candidate - Trump would have lost against Bernie and he would have lost in a landslide against Biden. The right had been painting Hillary as the wicked witch of the west since 1993. When the folks in the flyover states listening in their "Rush rooms" heard how evil Hillary was for 25 years, she was the ONLY person that Trump could have beaten.

My real concern is that they will be pushing hard for Oprah in 2020. Oprah appeals to everyone in the states that went for Hillary, but she's not that popular in "flyover country". And if they are foolish enough to push for Oprah or some "celebrity" like her, prepare yourself for another four years of the current ahole in chief.
 
Not fake news, but I do notice in my news feed that their stories do tend to lean left quite a bit. Remember...we thought this clown was unelectable in 2016. Had the DNC not decided that HIllary was going to their candidate - Trump would have lost against Bernie and he would have lost in a landslide against Biden. The right had been painting Hillary as the wicked witch of the west since 1993. When the folks in the flyover states listening in their "Rush rooms" heard how evil Hillary was for 25 years, she was the ONLY person that Trump could have beaten.

My real concern is that they will be pushing hard for Oprah in 2020. Oprah appeals to everyone in the states that went for Hillary, but she's not that popular in "flyover country". And if they are foolish enough to push for Oprah or some "celebrity" like her, prepare yourself for another four years of the current ahole in chief.

This is exactly correct. Trump really should not have won last go around thanks to the Dems idiocy of putting up Hillary that cost them. I am willing to bet they haven't learned the lessons of the past either and will put up someone up either old and tired ALA Joe Biden or they will go for the token ALA Oprah (black and a woman) to play to their base but will alienate the rest of the country.
 
He won!.......... Get over it!!! Well he win in 2020? Well he even run? ......Who knows? Is your crystal ball better than mine?........ That's yet to be seen. Like K..C. said, he shouldn't have won in 16,...... but he did!
 
He won!.......... Get over it!!! Well he win in 2020? Well he even run? ......Who knows? Is your crystal ball better than mine?........ That's yet to be seen. Like K..C. said, he shouldn't have won in 16,...... but he did!
I think they will get over Trump about the same time you guys get over Hillery and Obama..:D:D:D
 
Do you really think they will get over Hillary ever? I find that level of naivete refreshing in someone your age. The truth is they will never get over Hillary as long as she is the only person they can blame for everything going wrong--including the eruption of Kilauea, the loss of the National Football Championship to Alabama (again:D), and the failure of Congress once again to eliminate the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare). It doesn't matter whether she is in office or not. The chant must be "Hillary did it! Hillary did it! Hillary did it!" Anything else would require actual thinking.
 
Do you really think they will get over Hillary ever? I find that level of naivete refreshing in someone your age. The truth is they will never get over Hillary as long as she is the only person they can blame for everything going wrong--including the eruption of Kilauea, the loss of the National Football Championship to Alabama (again:D), and the failure of Congress once again to eliminate the Affordable Care Act (aka Obamacare). It doesn't matter whether she is in office or not. The chant must be "Hillary did it! Hillary did it! Hillary did it!" Anything else would require actual thinking.
They've been going after Hillary since 1993....why stop after only 25 years?
 
We are over (the national joke) Hillary. It's not our fault she won't go away.
She actually wrote a book called "what happened". Priceless!!!
 
Now, Bears. You ought to know better than to think that there is no chance the Donald will get re-elected. I would have bet you cash money that he didn't have a chance this time. I was watching the Republican National Convention the night that he was nominated. I called a friend and said "Thanks to the Republican Party, we have just elected our first female President of the United States." Was I wrong , or what!

P.S. Newsweek is a well-known libtard, Communist, perverted publication. Just ask Hack. He'll tell you if he has recovered from the Newsweek headline you posted.:):eek::p
 
Already over the Witch! Only unfinished business is see her in jail for the rest of her life........ Obama, in my book, is in the same category as Hanoi Jane.
 
This is exactly correct. Trump really should not have won last go around thanks to the Dems idiocy of putting up Hillary that cost them. I am willing to bet they haven't learned the lessons of the past either and will put up someone up either old and tired ALA Joe Biden or they will go for the token ALA Oprah (black and a woman) to play to their base but will alienate the rest of the country.
The problem is the Democrats run far left and the country is not far left. If you want to give all this free stuff, someone has to pay for it, and next thing you know your large 401ks and Roth IRA look good to pay for all the free stuff.
 
The problem is the Democrats run far left and the country is not far left. If you want to give all this free stuff, someone has to pay for it, and next thing you know your large 401ks and Roth IRA look good to pay for all the free stuff.
Here's the thing...NOthing's free...I want single payor universal health care, and I know it costs money. The opponents to it will point to Sweden or Germany or Canada or England and say "they pay 40% in taxes". And you know what? They are right. They do. But here's the thing....we are the only country where the majority of people rely on their employer to provide health insurance, and many employers are raising the employees share quite high, if not just dropping health care coverage altogether. I have a high deductible plan at work that covers me and my daughter. Between me and my employer, we pay almost $1,000 a month for that. Then factor in a $6,000 to $15,000 deductible. So if we take my newly cut taxes and add in $12,000 per year in premiums and another $6,000 per year in deductibles - I'm paying almost 40% of my income towards taxes and health care. I'd rather pay 40% in taxes and have my medical care taken care of for "free".

I am a bicyclist and I'm active on many bike related internet sites. I took a low speed spill on my bike a couple of years ago and had an $8,000 ER bill. I read stories from guys in England and Australia and Denmark who get hit by cars and their medical bills are - nothing. Something like that could bankrupt the average American. And they all seem to be quite happy with the coverage they have. And the lives that they lead. Oh yeah...and despite their high tax rates, a lot of them are tooling around on $6000 bikes.

So while nothing is "free", I think health care is a right. Even if it means we all have to pay more in taxes.
 
Here's the thing...NOthing's free...I want single payor universal health care, and I know it costs money. The opponents to it will point to Sweden or Germany or Canada or England and say "they pay 40% in taxes". And you know what? They are right. They do. But here's the thing....we are the only country where the majority of people rely on their employer to provide health insurance, and many employers are raising the employees share quite high, if not just dropping health care coverage altogether. I have a high deductible plan at work that covers me and my daughter. Between me and my employer, we pay almost $1,000 a month for that. Then factor in a $6,000 to $15,000 deductible. So if we take my newly cut taxes and add in $12,000 per year in premiums and another $6,000 per year in deductibles - I'm paying almost 40% of my income towards taxes and health care. I'd rather pay 40% in taxes and have my medical care taken care of for "free".

I am a bicyclist and I'm active on many bike related internet sites. I took a low speed spill on my bike a couple of years ago and had an $8,000 ER bill. I read stories from guys in England and Australia and Denmark who get hit by cars and their medical bills are - nothing. Something like that could bankrupt the average American. And they all seem to be quite happy with the coverage they have. And the lives that they lead. Oh yeah...and despite their high tax rates, a lot of them are tooling around on $6000 bikes.

So while nothing is "free", I think health care is a right. Even if it means we all have to pay more in taxes.
KC, I have a liberal acquaintance who I graduated High School with. I use the the word "liberal" vary loosely. The term "socialist" would be more accurate. You see we graduated from a school in California in the early sixties. I ended up on an Aircraft carrier off of North Vietnam. He ended up accusing all Vietnam Vets.of being baby killers. Well to make a long story short, it would seem California, at that time, wasn't liberal enough for him, so he ended up migrating to Greece and took up citizenship. Well, we reconnected on facebook and had a few words. It would seem he was bragging how all the schools, and health care, are free there. But because of their economy of late had turned bad, they had to cut his Government pension, which was putting him in a financial bind. He left the U.S. early on so he no longer qualified for Social Security. At that point I just had to point out that if that was the case, maybe their schools, and health care, really weren't as "free" as he thought! ----- Well needless to say we no longer communicate!.......... Like you say K.C. "nothing is free"!
 
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This is exactly correct. Trump really should not have won last go around thanks to the Dems idiocy of putting up Hillary that cost them. I am willing to bet they haven't learned the lessons of the past either and will put up someone up either old and tired ALA Joe Biden or they will go for the token ALA Oprah (black and a woman) to play to their base but will alienate the rest of the country.


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Do yourself a huge favor, and DON'T EVER think Joe Biden is too Old, or too Tired. I met/saw Joe B. in Feb. in Medford, MA, when he was on his new book tour, "Promise me Dad", dedicated to his late son Beau Biden, and it was Beau Biden's sad, sad death(of a brilliant young man), that sidelined Joe from running in 2016. No one, in my lifetime(and I've been around since 45'), has ever had the Foreign Policy experience that JB has. Not Kissenger, NO ONE. It's why Obama selected him for VP. JB is the Perfect candidate for the Blue collar guy, or ANY Middle Class Family. If JB doesn't run, it won't be because he's hesitant to "get in the Ring" to "mix it up" with ANYONE. That's NOT in the DNA of a White Irish guy from very simple roots, from the East Coast !!!
 

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