Tariffs

[KCFlyer]

Means Trump has taught people how to cook the books

Wease citing all these Trump officials is kind of like Baghdad Bob telling Iraqi's that Saddam was strong and will prevail as they were toppling his statue in the town square.

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[WeAAsles]

Overall economy. They definitely are setting up the infrastructure for this.

 

[WeAAsles]

And Food excluding Beef and Coffee is at 2.6% inflation. And wages are at 3.5% so they are surpassing overall inflation. Tariffs are NOT being passed on to Americans to any unreasonable effects.

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[KCFlyer]

Keep paying those tariffs to keep America great.

 

[WeAAsles]

Keep paying those tariffs to keep America great.

Again what am I paying where? And in the meantime welcome to 2026

 

[KCFlyer]

That's nice but it doesn't reflect grocery prices. But if we use the stock market as an indicator of a thriving economy, let's have a look at the S&P 500 during the Biden years. Helluva disaster Trump inherited, ain't it?

 

[KCFlyer]

Just out of curiosity, I hightlighed the Obama years too, since Trump said he inherited a disaster in 2017 as well. Funny how his disasters are all showing an upward trend when he got them.

 

[WeAAsles]

That's nice but it doesn't reflect grocery prices. But if we use the stock market as an indicator of a thriving economy, let's have a look at the S&P 500 during the Biden years. Helluva disaster Trump inherited, ain't it?

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Except for 2022 I did quite well in the Market during the Biden years. Also did well under Obama. Did well under Trump # 1 also and even better this first year of Trump # 2.

Also have pretty well kept up with wage increases since the AA/ USAIR Merger even though my Pension was frozen.

I know how to manage my money “good” 😂

 

[WeAAsles]

That's nice but it doesn't reflect grocery prices. But if we use the stock market as an indicator of a thriving economy, let's have a look at the S&P 500 during the Biden years. Helluva disaster Trump inherited, ain't it?

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AI 🤖 39 Sources.

During Joe Biden’s presidency (January 2021 to January 2025), inflation in the United States rose significantly compared to prior years, driven by factors including post-COVID supply chain disruptions, the $1.9 trillion American Rescue Plan stimulus, energy price shocks from the Russia-Ukraine war, and strong consumer demand.

Key Metrics (based on Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers, CPI-U, from Bureau of Labor Statistics data):
• Starting point: Year-over-year inflation was 1.4% in January 2021 when Biden took office.
• Peak: Reached 9.1% year-over-year in June 2022 — the highest in over 40 years.
• Average annual rate: Approximately 5% over the full term (precise calculations vary slightly by source, but consistently in the high single digits when annualized).
• Ending point: 3.0% year-over-year in January 2025 (Biden’s final full month).
• Cumulative increase: Prices rose about 21% from January 2021 to January 2025. This means goods and services that cost $100 in early 2021 typically cost around $121 by early 2025.
Inflation cooled substantially after mid-2022 due to Federal Reserve interest rate hikes (11 increases starting in 2022), easing supply chains, and falling energy prices, dropping to around 3% by late 2023–2024. However, it remained above the Fed’s 2% target for most of the term.

Comparison to Trump’s First Term (2017–2021)
Inflation was much lower and more stable, averaging around 1.9–2% annually, with cumulative price increases under 8%. The pandemic caused a brief deflationary dip in 2020, but no major surge occurred until after Biden took office.

Critics (often Republicans) attribute the surge to excessive stimulus spending under Biden, while supporters point to global factors and note that inflation followed similar patterns in many countries. Real wages (adjusted for inflation) declined slightly overall under Biden (down ~1–2% cumulatively), as nominal wage growth (~20%) lagged behind price increases.

By late 2025 (under the subsequent administration), inflation had eased further to around 2.7–2.9%, though some data gaps existed due to a government shutdown affecting October 2025 reporting.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Tell me almighty computer. What should I think?

 

[KCFlyer]

Except for 2022 I did quite well in the Market during the Biden years. Also did well under Obama. Did well under Trump # 1 also and even better this first year of Trump # 2.

Also have pretty well kept up with wage increases since the AA/ USAIR Merger even though my Pension was frozen.

I know how to manage my money “good” 😂

You know what I did in 2022? If a Republican was in office, that would have been called a "buying opportunity". So I did. And one thing I didn't do was sell off all the gains I made after Trump took over the disaster of an economy in 2016. So I did pretty good in teh market because - I didn't sell at the bottom. I'm sorry if you did. But wasn't that a cool recovery in 2023 and 2024?

But I'm just curious....why have you had post after post of stock market performance, but when I mention the stock market under Obama and Biden, you start talking about inflation? But it'st to be expected given the Trump team blamed Bidern. But I wish I had the video of the Trump team who, when asked about rising grocery prices in 2025, came back and used the words "Joe Biden" about 12 times in under 30 seconds. And he was talking about 2022 - 3 years ago. Yes prices went up in 2022. But Trump promised he'd get prices down fast. Yet they are still high and they are climbing at about the same rate they did in 2023 and 2024.

 

[WeAAsles]

You know what I did in 2022? If a Republican was in office, that would have been called a "buying opportunity". So I did. And one thing I didn't do was sell off all the gains I made after Trump took over the disaster of an economy in 2016. So I did pretty good in teh market because - I didn't sell at the bottom. I'm sorry if you did. But wasn't that a cool recovery in 2023 and 2024?

But I'm just curious....why have you had post after post of stock market performance, but when I mention the stock market under Obama and Biden, you start talking about inflation? But it'st to be expected given the Trump team blamed Bidern. But I wish I had the video of the Trump team who, when asked about rising grocery prices in 2025, came back and used the words "Joe Biden" about 12 times in under 30 seconds. And he was talking about 2022 - 3 years ago. Yes prices went up in 2022. But Trump promised he'd get prices down fast. Yet they are still high and they are climbing at about the same rate they did in 2023 and 2024.

I do not see the inflation in Food that you continue to push. Only Beef, Chocolate and Coffee.

I’ve never pulled back on putting into my 401K. Doesn’t matter what President. 2023 was great and so was 2024, but 2025 was much better. BTW 2023 just made up for the losses of 2022.

I think Joe Biden was the worst President in my lifetime. But that isn’t regarding the Stock Market. That’s regarding all of his policies.

But I thought you said you’re a Republican and it seems you can’t stand Trump? Hate to break the news to you but Trump (MAGA) is the Republican Party now. Just as much as it seems AOC is the representative for the model Democrats.

After Trump the Republican Party will be JD Vance, Marco Rubio and Steven Miller.

Hate them as you will but Patriots love them.