Tariffs

[Dog Wonder]

Or they can build some factories here in the USA 🇺🇸

But then is that still really a BMW?

what country is South Carolina in?

BMW Manufacturing Celebrates Award-Winning Vehicles As It Continues To Build A Sustainable Future

www.bmwgroup-werke.com

 

[KCFlyer]

The Cadillac is now the preferred choice of the American 🇺🇸 buyer and Germany 🇩🇪 sees a massive drop in BMW sales to the USA 🇺🇸

So are you saying that Cadillac will eat the 50% tarifff on steel and aluminum used in their vehicles? Or the other components that are imported? this will affect the price of teh Caddy....again...a "win" for trump costs Americans...even if they buy American.

But then is that still really a BMW?

Guess what is in Spartanburg South Carolina. AND...the things that are built there are subject to a 50% tariff on steel and aluminum that are used in cars built her but not on cars built over there.

Maybe not since both France (Airbus/Wines) and Germany (BMW) aren’t too happy with the Trade deal.

Speaking of airplanes - Guess what is build in Mobile Alabama. Yep...Airbus builds planes there. But again....planes built at their factory in the US will be subject to the 50% tariff used in planes built here. Oddly.....as drastic as the tariffs are overseas, it might make it financially attractive for those companies to CLOSE plants here and build them in Europe an just pays the tariff for importing them.

The reason you always present "hypothetical situations" is because the real world shreds your lunatic ideas with a swiftness.

I almost miss this since it was buried in the flood of wheezies X posts. But I notice you didn't answer the question....why is that?

Finally......the genius negotatior just proudly announced his deal with Japan...which lowered the tariffs on their imports and put American car makers at a disadvantage because they will be subject to the 50% tariff on steel and aluminum. So will the Japanese automakers that build here. And I wonder if that might have the reconsider building cars in the US.

Bottom line - when it comes to tariffs....every win for Trump costs Americans more.

 

[WeAAsles]

So are you saying that Cadillac will eat the 50% tarifff on steel and aluminum used in their vehicles? Or the other components that are imported? this will affect the price of teh Caddy....again...a "win" for trump costs Americans...even if they buy American.


Guess what is in Spartanburg South Carolina. AND...the things that are built there are subject to a 50% tariff on steel and aluminum that are used in cars built her but not on cars built over there.



Speaking of airplanes - Guess what is build in Mobile Alabama. Yep...Airbus builds planes there. But again....planes built at their factory in the US will be subject to the 50% tariff used in planes built here. Oddly.....as drastic as the tariffs are overseas, it might make it financially attractive for those companies to CLOSE plants here and build them in Europe an just pays the tariff for importing them.


I almost miss this since it was buried in the flood of wheezies X posts. But I notice you didn't answer the question....why is that?

Finally......the genius negotatior just proudly announced his deal with Japan...which lowered the tariffs on their imports and put American car makers at a disadvantage because they will be subject to the 50% tariff on steel and aluminum. So will the Japanese automakers that build here. And I wonder if that might have the reconsider building cars in the US.

Bottom line - when it comes to tariffs....every win for Trump costs Americans more.

I guess a jackass like you just prefers that America keeps having all these massive Trade imbalances letting other Countries grow wealthier sucking our veins until we eventually end up like Argentina or maybe even worse like Venezuela.

Your Status Quo is NOT AN OPTION!!!!!!

2018–present Argentine monetary crisis - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

And you are not worth engaging with because you ignore everything that doesn’t fit your Trump hating narrative. You are deranged.

USMCA in full force and effect.

United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement

The United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) entered into force on July 1, 2020. The USMCA, which substituted the North America Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) is a mutually beneficial win for North American workers, farmers, ranchers, and businesses. The Agreement creates more balanced...

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U.S. – Mexico – Canada Agreement (USMCA)

Securing America's Borders

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[WeAAsles]

“Our handy tracker won't answer your every question about, say, import duties on goods from penguin-inhabited islands or China, but it will cover the major developments in tariffs impacting the automotive industry. From automaker responses, Trump administration announcements, U.S.M.C.A. carve-outs for Canada and Mexico, and how all this effects you, the American car shopper, this will be your one-stop-shop for all things tariffs. The best part? This tariff tracker is free—no taxes for reading it!”

How Are Trump's Tariffs Impacting Cars, Costs, and Customers? Mexico Hangs Onto "Status Quo"

Trying to keep track of all this tariff stuff? Here's how it's impacting the car industry.

www.motortrend.com

 

[WeAAsles]

The reason you always present "hypothetical situations" is because the real world shreds your lunatic ideas with a swiftness.

Man you are so right about this clown. I’ve thrown every bit of information out there including even agreeing with him to some extent that some Tariff costs will be passed on to us and he’s still just completely psychotically obsessed with all things Trump.

 

[Dog Wonder]

What country is South Carolina in, roadkill?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Man you are so right about this clown. I’ve thrown every bit of information out there including even agreeing with him to some extent that some Tariff costs will be passed on to us and he’s still just completely psychotically obsessed with all things Trump.

Orange man bad is the only trick left in the Democrat's playbook.

The problem (for Democrats) is the trick has a shelf life.

The closer we get to the end of Trump's term the less people are going to give a sh*t.

They better find a new drum to beat and fast.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

So are you saying that Cadillac will eat the 50% tarifff on steel and aluminum used in their vehicles? Or the other components that are imported? this will affect the price of teh Caddy....again...a "win" for trump costs Americans...even if they buy American.

Companies will sell their cars for what the market will bear. That is a pretty easy concept to understand. Just because they are being charged tariffs does not mean they can simply "pass the cost on" to the consumer. They may simply have to settle for less profit if they want to continue to sell cars.

Guess what is in Spartanburg South Carolina. AND...the things that are built there are subject to a 50% tariff on steel and aluminum that are used in cars built her but not on cars built over there.

Well I guess Steel Mills could become a booming business here in the states again. I know... that is just terrible isn't it?

Well, I like that option far better seeing American steel mills sit there and rot. Here are two steel mills in the same town that were shuttered. By the way both of these were UNION shops.

Gerdau Ameristeel, Sand Springs Oklahoma, shut down.

Sheffield Steel Corporation, Sand Springs Oklahoma, shut down.

Speaking of airplanes - Guess what is build in Mobile Alabama. Yep...Airbus builds planes there. But again....planes built at their factory in the US will be subject to the 50% tariff used in planes built here. Oddly.....as drastic as the tariffs are overseas, it might make it financially attractive for those companies to CLOSE plants here and build them in Europe an just pays the tariff for importing them.

So you're saying an European company might pull out and create a vacuum for an American company to fill? Cry me a river. I rather give it to an American company than a French one for damn sure, oui.

Finally......the genius negotatior just proudly announced his deal with Japan...which lowered the tariffs on their imports and put American car makers at a disadvantage because they will be subject to the 50% tariff on steel and aluminum. So will the Japanese automakers that build here. And I wonder if that might have the reconsider building cars in the US.

Who cares? Not Detroit.

 

[KCFlyer]

Companies will sell their cars for what the market will bear. That is a pretty easy concept to understand. Just because they are being charged tariffs does not mean they can simply "pass the cost on" to the consumer. They may simply have to settle for less profit if they want to continue to sell cars.

Help me out here....I have heard from conservatives that any increased costs due to taxes or regulations are passed on to the customer. They are never met with "they will charge what the market will bear"....Unless it's a tariff....THEN they will only charge what the market will bear. So I guess I have to change my statement to, when it comes to tariffs, a win for Trump means American Business will pay more. If there is $20,000 worth of steel in a car and this is factored into the $70,000 price tax, when the steel is subect to a 50% tariff, making it $30,000...how much of that should a manufacturer eat?

 

[Dog Wonder]

Those closed mini steel mills in Oklahoma were owned by a Brazilian company. Trump’s new favorite trading partner.

 

[WeAAsles]

AISI Applauds Steel Tariff Increase Announcement

May 30, 2025
WASHINGTON, D.C. – Kevin Dempsey, president and CEO of the American Iron and Steel Institute, today applauded the announcement by President Trump tonight that he was increasing the existing steel tariffs from 25 percent to 50 percent:

“AISI welcomes President Trump’s announcement today that he is increasing steel tariffs to 50 percent. Led by China, global steel overcapacity and production continues to grow, even as overall global steel demand is being impacted by the sharp downturn in the Chinese construction sector. As a result, Chinese steel exports to the world have more than doubled since 2020, surging to 118 million MT in 2024 — more than total North American steel production. Given these challenging international conditions that show no signs of improvement, this tariff action will help prevent new surges in imports that would injure American steel producers and their workers. AISI applauds the president’s bold action today to increase the tariffs on foreign steel and keep the American steel industry strong.”

AISI Applauds Steel Tariff Increase Announcement - American Iron and Steel Institute

AISI serves as the voice of the American steel industry in the public policy arena and advances the case for steel in the marketplace as the preferred material of choice.

www.steel.org

 

[WeAAsles]

The IAM and USW are hypocrites here because they’re playing one side against the other as they represent Steelworkers in both the USA and Canada. (Conflict of Interest in a Trade and Tariff dispute)

I support us, the USA 🇺🇸

https://www.goiam.org/news/territories/canada-territories/iam-union-blasts-trumps-35-tariff-on-canada/#:~:text=Tariff%2520on%2520Canada-,Canada,the%2520center%2520of%2520the%2520discussion.%E2%80%9D

Steelworkers call on federal government to hold the line and strengthen Canada’s economic defences as trade war escalates - USW Canada

TORONTO – United Steelworkers union (USW) National Director, Marty Warren, issued the following statement today: “Trump’s tariffs on Canadian exports remain in place and now he’s imposed a 35% general tariff on non-CUSMA compliant Canadian exports, a 50% tariff on steel, aluminum and copper, new...

usw.ca

 

[WeAAsles]

Nippon Steel names three American directors to U.S. Steel board

Nippon Steel had pledged to ensure that more than half of members of the U.S. Steel board are American citizens.

Nippon Steel on Thursday announced the appointment of three new independent U.S. directors to the board of United States Steel, bringing the number of American citizens on the seven-member board to four.

The move fulfills a pledge that the Japanese steelmaker made under a national security agreement reached with the U.S. government over its acquisition of the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania-based company.

Under the agreement, Nippon Steel pledged to ensure that more than half of members of the U.S. Steel board, which has up to nine seats, are U.S. citizens.

Nippon Steel also has agreed to issue a "golden share" to the U.S. government to allow it to appoint one independent director to the U.S. Steel board.

The special share has not been issued and the latest appointment was not made by the U.S. government, said Nippon Steel, which completed its acquisition of U.S. Steel in June.

The three new directors are John Donovan, former CEO of AT&T Communications, former Lockheed Martin CEO Robert Stevens and Timothy Keating, a retired admiral who headed the U.S. Pacific Command.

Nippon Steel names three American directors to U.S. Steel board

The move fulfills a pledge that the Japanese steelmaker made under a national security agreement reached with the U.S. government.

www.japantimes.co.jp

 

[WeAAsles]

This has to start getting paid down.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Trump taxes.