Temporary Injunction against USAPA filed today

[Phoenix]

This Move2clt is a paid Franke Air agent. Possibly a low level computer hack, right out of the Franke Air manual, especially the godless rants. The only god to a true disciple of Franke is cash, and Franke himself.

I don't know if he is an agent or not, but if I had prior knowledge of a USAPA loss and was opposed to USAPA, it would seem like such a missed opportunity to stand idly by and let events play out by themselves. Even if I wasn't certain of a loss, it would be a reasonable gamble to invent a new voice in the crowd.

ALPA's only problem was that it could never engender such heated opposition, except from its own members.

 

[Move2CLT]

Maybe you're right. Who knows?

But through it all you will remain the second lowest paid pilots in the industry (although about 25% of east pilots are paid as much or more than you.)

So, be patient. You will have to remain near the bottom until we "figure it out." Which is no time soon.

Enjoy the ride.

Second lowest? Not by a long shot. Do some research.

I've done the research and have found you continue to scrape the bottom of the industry in work rules and wages. That's a fact.

 

[Move2CLT]

I don't know if he is an agent or not, but if I had prior knowledge of a USAPA loss and was opposed to USAPA, it would seem like such a missed opportunity to stand idly by and let events play out by themselves. Even if I wasn't certain of a loss, it would be a reasonable gamble to invent a new voice in the crowd.

ALPA's only problem was that it could never engender such heated opposition, except from its own members.

Not at all.

The company isn't going to leak anything until an injunction is in place. Their fear is an east meltdown and mass sickouts.

Leonidas isn't going to put anything out for obvious reasons as well.

My info came from within USAPA. I know you guys think you had your dream team in there but that's far from the truth. There is some much discontent with the committees that your union is internally polarized. Cleary has many enemies around him which is one reason he likes to work from home in NH.

Its obvious many of you here that post don't know how internal union politics work, how leaky an office can be, and how many are always willing to help the other side. One absolute is that you can ALWAYS find a sympathizer on the other side of the table.

You think that list I got regarding the S19's came from the company!?!?! I got it 2 days before the email came out from USAPA.

So think what you will, but I'm telling you like it is. I'm telling you like USAPA should be telling you - straight up with no sunshine.

No LOA93, no snapbacks, all Nic. Your officers already know this.

 

[Move2CLT]

Someone joins only 30 days ago and has over 700 posts? They constantly bait the East to hate the West even more? They claim to have knowledge that implies they have an all knowing relationship and trust with the company who is now secretly sitting on the perfect storm of events (maybe the West poster even infers they are so deep within the circle of company trust they even helped the company dream up the perfect beat-down, mwaahahahaha <------evil laugh).. the LOA 93 decision is a total company win and thus is about to demoralize the East faithful but they will be stirred to unthinkable levels of rage, slowdowns, and shenanigans not seen since the days of Eastern (so says the sage-come-lately who has his move to CLT mapped out), but the company has the perfect ace... an impending injunction that will put a straight jacket on those who are about to be moved to a temper tantrum they could never even envision of themselves. The sage-come-latey howls, "Ohhhh, Oh, their impending pain is palpable! The glorious paralysis in the midst of excruciating pain that the East pilots and there impotent union will experience, all because they made stupid choices! Valhalla could have been theirs, but they chose poorly. Alas, they will never learn, but don't cry for them, because they chose it for themselves."

If you were management and longed for the days of ALPA cooperation, what story would you tell?

If you were an obsessed Westie longing for the days of ALPA, what story would you gamble on?

P.S. The company was being gracious to Capt Wells because they didn't want to embarrass her after her testimony...

I have to admit that answering some of the stupidity on this board has kept me quite busy but I do see progress. Between the hate-filled posts that come back to me as well as those posts trying to explain me away as management, Glass, etc., its quite obvious that I've had an impact on your paradigms.

I don't "bait" but merely respond to asinine thoughts that come out of some of you and inject a bit of fact into them. That tends to produce alot of pushback which can be seen in attacks against me and BB for example.

The PM's I get from lurkers range from anger to more questions and I've actually have a steady exchange with two easties via PM.

So keep guessing and trying to explain me away - I get a kick out of reading it. But your posts tell me that I'm hitting home with the stuff I'm putting up here.

 

[Phoenix]

I have to admit that answering some of the stupidity on this board has kept me quite busy but I do see progress. Between the hate-filled posts that come back to me as well as those posts trying to explain me away as management, Glass, etc., its quite obvious that I've had an impact on your paradigms.

I don't "bait" but merely respond to asinine thoughts that come out of some of you and inject a bit of fact into them. That tends to produce alot of pushback which can be seen in attacks against me and BB for example.

The PM's I get from lurkers range from anger to more questions and I've actually have a steady exchange with two easties via PM.

So keep guessing and trying to explain me away - I get a kick out of reading it. But your posts tell me that I'm hitting home with the stuff I'm putting up here.

Yes, yes, the revolution is building. See USAPA can't do anything right and is really evil at its core. I'm beginning to see the light. Can we speak more on this? USAPA is such a lousy union because it really hates its pilots and lies to them all the time, even about the time of day. On one day USAPA is a bumbling, drunk idiot that can't tie its own shoes, and the next it is plotting with satan's angels to destroy the evil notion of pilot representation from off the face of the earth (working with Satan to destroy evil.. that's a really, really evil coup.. only Cleary could devise that ) . Cleary is hiding in his ivory palace and is immune from the suffering of the stupid electorate who voted to put him there. I was so stupid. I mean, can you believe they bought a Ford Tarus for the office car. I mean actually I think we were told it was two Ford Tauruses?!!! AAACKK! I wonder if ALPA would be gracious enough to let me pay to come back on my hands and knees? Can you put in a good word for me? Please?

You on the other hand are a saint, and you even have intimate conversations with Easties via PM. (Please don't divulge too many secrets of your passions. Those are personal, ya know.) They have sworn fealty to you but are too embarrassed at the moment to come out of the closet, but their time is coming when all on the East who are burdened and heavy laden will finally come to you for rest.

 

[Phoenix]

... isn't going to leak anything until an injunction is in place...

Why should I head your call to salvation when you tell me nothing is leaked, but you have been a pontificating, self-proclaimed leaker ever since you joined the board last month? I am so disillusioned with you now. :huh:

 

[Move2CLT]

I am so disillusioned with you now. :huh:

Keep the faith Phoenix.

 

[Move2CLT]

Why should I head your call to salvation when you tell me nothing is leaked, but you have been a pontificating, self-proclaimed leaker ever since you joined the board last month? I am so disillusioned with you now. :huh:

Say what? I told you where the leak came from boob oo.

 

[luvthe9]

So who am I this time?

Same west loser you have always been. 😉

 

[Move2CLT]

Same west loser you have always been. 😉

Said the eastie.

Ya, your history really backs up that statement. 😉

 

[mrbreeze]

The PM's I get from lurkers range from anger to more questions and I've actually have a steady exchange with two easties via PM.

PMs with CM don't count.

 

[Move2CLT]

PMs with CM don't count.

I understand that.

 

[Phoenix]

Say what? I told you where the leak came from boob oo.

What you didn't tell us is how you have such intimate, chummy knowledge of the company's dreaded fear of it being leaked, yet none opposes you leaking it. They have figured out how to reach people who have taxied too slowly and cost the company a few extra minutes of block time, but they sit idly by and let you leak the unspeakable in 700+ posts, and in spite of the supposed fact that they have confided in you that they don't want it leaked because of the untold damage to the company? 🙄

If I promise to vote for the Nic will you promise to start telling me the truth? The whole truth? Promise?

 

[Move2CLT]

You guys are really that infatuated with my post number. If you guys didn't post a tremendous amount of stupidity on these boards then I wouldn't have to respond so much.

So give yourselves a hand!!!!

And Phoenix, I have been telling you the truth. You just don't listen. Help me help you!

 

[Phoenix]

You guys are really that infatuated with my post number. If you guys didn't post a tremendous amount of stupidity on these boards then I wouldn't have to respond so much.

So give yourselves a hand!!!!

And Phoenix, I have been telling you the truth. You just don't listen.

Yes, your posts have contained truth occasionally all along (I mean, surely, there is a date time stamp on your posts. Can't a reasonable person at least give you credit for that?). Somewhere in all your accusations and guesses you probably got something else right too. I think you at lest said ALAP sux or something once, maybe. Remind me which guess you made was true?

Oh, never mind. If you or CM can ever point back at one of your prophesies, guesses, speculations, secret decoder ring insider information juicy for sure facts... as actually being true, then I will be obligated to immediately surrender and hand over my seniority forthwith.