Thb Wearing 2 Hats

[FA Mikey]

On the speaker issue, I can tell you that it is not cheap to take language classess. At the New England Language Institute, a private Mandarin Chinese class is $437.00. IT is not a cheap skill to be able to speak a language, and so, if the company isn't going to pay, then how can you blame an employee for refusing to give unpaid free service?

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I can blame them and I do. Leave a customer and a co worker out on a limb because you feel without extra pay you will not assist? It is an insult to us all. Most of our speakers are native, it did not cost them. For those who went to school to learns great and more power to you. What can you say about a person who stands there like a parking meter wait for change before they will help out someone in need.

I myself am taking chinese lessons and French classess to better myself in the job market. Will AA have enough Mandarin speakers in April of next year without a recall? Or is it going to be one speaker per flight for the entire plane? Can you imagine evacuating an entire 777 with just one or two speakers?

[post="281012"][/post]​

Good luck on the language, hope work well for you in the future job market. Will also help you if you choose to stay here.

Emergency evacuations are in English only. Only a planned where you will be reading from the cheek list, even then one person on the PA does the job.

Plus how often do we need a speaker on any given flight? Not for the regular service, just in those extraordinary situations. In most other countries in the world people speak 2 or more languages. Its just here in the US where we have never felt the need to be a player in the global market place.

 

[Wretched Wrench]

All she cares about is the few seniors and she's just looking out for her pension.

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Is it possible that by doing so she is also looking out for YOUR pension? Look a little farther ahead.

 

[Corinth2103]

Is it possible that by doing so she is also looking out for your pension? Look a little farther ahead.

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Exactly...there will come a time in the future when we will be senior and appreciative that those ahead have tried to secure the best possible pension and retirement available. 😉


Tim

 

[flydcoop]

OK,

Quit drinking the JW Kool-Aid. I once supported him 100%, until I got forced-transferred to STL.

We were ignored and called "whiners" and were shoo-shooed aside.

THB was not my first choice but I have tremendous respect for her. STL/SLT was her 2nd base visit (after DFW) and that took cojones.

There are 3 very different issues here and she dealt with them head on.

I think her administration is full of shady people, but that is to be expected.

She also did something unprecedented and invited SLT to do a base presentation to the APFA BOD (perhaps the real target of your anger) at the APFA BOD convention in ORD this past March.

The SLT delegation decided to show up in our uniforms to remind them of who they represented.

We (IMO) experienced hostility from the BOD for that. When was the last time they flew a trip? If they haven't flown DOM under the RPA they need a reminder.

I support term limits or mandatory trips (and not a 1 leg, 24 hour ANC layover). I'm talking about the crappiest trips in the system. 13 hour duty-rig, 8 hour layover, 4 legs for 2 or 3 days, the whole nine yards.

The BOD seems to be made up of 2 groups fighting for control and clueless about F/A issues.

It's all about those precious trip-removals. There are many working at APFA that should have their a** working a cart. Many haven't worked one in YEARS.

Nothing will change for SLT, we are a small base and easy to ignore, but THB invited us to do this.

I asked Lanning (LAX-I) on another web-site why her administration treated us so horribly (STL at the time), no response.

What negotiating upper-hand do you think we have right now? It's not like we did in 2000 with a 98% strike vote and AA was profitable.

Most F/As can barely be bothered to vote.

You are b**ching about the speaker situation at a base you could not hold if you were not a speaker.

You would be in LGA or SLT right now without your speaker quals. You were furloughed, correct? Now you are flying LAX-I?

Coop

SLT

I happened to notice that there is a letter from "Lauri, Tommie and Bob" in flight service website. This letter even has a apfa website on it. I guess it shows that THB is sleeping with the company. It is not a mistake to call AAPFA now. What's next? More paycut? Straight reserve? furlough? This seems like a dictatorship than democracy. All they care about is themselves and they will do whatever they want to do without our consent. It's blatantly obvious!

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[jimntx]

Well, what do I know? I'm only a working flight attendant. I should have known that a craft person from another airline would know better.

700W, I don't happen to care what the FAA or the AFA posted on their websites. What I know is that to get the FAA certification card that I carry and that you insist has to do with being a safety professional, all I had to do was sign a statement that the addresses I had given the company for my places of residence over the last 10 years was accurate. Yes, I went to recurrent training when I was recalled last November; but, I have to go again this year and next year and the year after that, and they didn't even ask to see my FAA certification as you call it.

Now perhaps in your infinite wisdom, you can 'splain to me what the H*ll my addresses for the last 10 years have to do with being a safety professional.

 

[Wretched Wrench]

Now perhaps you can 'splain to me what the H*ll my addresses for the last 10 years have to do with being a safety professional.

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Part of a security check?

 

[flydcoop]

Part of a security check?

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Wrench,

I've been through 4-5 background checks with AA. We are certified now with the plastic card to prove it.

What it actually means is unknown.

I had the FAA doing a Cabin Inspection on a flight recently.

He wanted to see my manual but had no interest in my certification.

"Part of a security check?" What do you mean by that?

I sincerely hope it is not to belittle us F/As.

Coop

SLT (formerly BOS, if you catch my drift)

 

[Wretched Wrench]

No, Coop. Just a simple question, not an attempt to belittle FAs. Both the company and the FAA have an annoying way of asking for the same information again and again. And going back ten years could well be security-related.

 

[Bob Owens]

Wrench,

I've been through 4-5 background checks with AA. We are certified now with the plastic card to prove it.

What it actually means is unknown.

I had the FAA doing a Cabin Inspection on a flight recently.

He wanted to see my manual but had no interest in my certification.

"Part of a security check?" What do you mean by that?

I sincerely hope it is not to belittle us F/As.

Coop

SLT (formerly BOS, if you catch my drift)

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Was the FAA official a former FA? Chances are the official was either a mechanic, pilot or both but never worked as an FA. Probably didnt even know you had a card.

I think what WW meant about the security check is that ever since 9-11 the ATSB wants more thorough background checks on people working in, on or around aircraft. Maybe the ceritification they are talking about is just that, sort of like the identity card they have in Europe. Other than that it probably doesnt mean much. What you guys need to push for is standardized training that is required by the FAA in order to do the job, certification thats portable.

 

[flydcoop]

Bob,

Based on where he wanted to stow his bags and where he actually sat, he was not a former FA.

If he was, he would know what a drama that cabin can be. I don't even stow my bags up there on certain A/C and I am WORKING.

Coop

SLT

Was the FAA official a former FA? Chances are the official was either a mechanic, pilot or both but never worked as an FA. Probably didnt even know you had a card.

I think what WW meant about the security check is that ever since 9-11 the ATSB wants more thorough background checks on people working in, on or around aircraft. Maybe the ceritification they are talking about is just that, sort of like the identity card they have in Europe. Other than that it probably doesnt mean much. What you guys need to push for is standardized training that is required by the FAA in order to do the job, certification thats portable.

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