The AFL-CIO Defends Union Violence As A ‘Legitimate’ Union Activity

[traderjake]

Posted by Pi brat on the USAirways forum

http://www.redstate.com/laborunionreport/2011/09/22/the-afl-cio-defends-union-violence-as-a-legitimate-union-activity-will-the-dept-of-labor-do-it-too/

 

[Dog Wonder]

Cut and paste of a cut and paste.

Baaaaa.

 

[700UW]

Violence in the pursuit of justice, is not criminal

 

[traderjake]

Violence in the pursuit of justice, is not criminal

Pursuit of a labor monopoly is not justice.

Using violence to obtain a labor monopoly is a crime.

 

[700UW]

So its ok when the newspaper workers were on strike in Detroit in the middle of winter and they ordered the firemen to spray them with hoses so break the picket line?

Guess what the fireman refused.

Guess you never heard of Pinkerton, Wakenhut, the Haymarket Square, GM Bridge, Matewan?

So its ok for companies to use violence against strikers?

And there is NOTHING in the article about a labor monopoly.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/11/07/labor-union-violence-in-america-a-brief-history/#

 

[traderjake]

So its ok for companies to use violence against strikers?

And there is NOTHING in the article about a labor monopoly.

It's not OK for governments and companies to use violence.

A union by definition is a labor monopoly, it's seeks exclusive control of the supply of labor companies can use.

 

[700UW]

No its not a labor monopoly.

So is the chamber of commerce a business monopoly?

 

[signals]

It's not OK for governments and companies to use violence.

A union by definition is a labor monopoly, it's seeks exclusive control of the supply of labor companies can use.

A union only seeks an exclusive control in a company, if the company is a union shop. If you had to join a union to work for your employer, would you be OK if suddenly they started hiring and give union as an option. I knew people who would work in a union shop, making union wages, then when in 30 days they had to join the union, they would quit!

Union and non-union is a symbiotic relationship where your balance comes from feeding off each other. If unions controled all aspects of labor, we would be bent over. If companies were in total control, we would be bent over. By killing unions completely you open up the door to those willing to do everything you do and more for less money.

Tell me your employer is as loyal to you as you are to the company

 

[signals]

Violence is in the eye of the media. They do have a way of spinning things for ratings which mean more money for them. Don't believe everything you see and read, it has been edited, cut, and spun. Spiro Agnew was right when he BASICALLY said that we see the police brutality, but we don't see what the criminals did. Contrary to popular belief, in rational people, violence doesn't just happen unless provoked.

and then we alter history to reflect the troubles of the time!
nuf sed h34r:

 

[SparrowHawk]

The initiation of force against another human is morally wrong.

This is fundamental to Liberty and living as you choose. Conversely, you also have the right to self defense.

Unions in order to gain public support need to under any circumstance resist the urge to initiate force. This is equally true for government. When the Government in concert with private corporate paramilitary seek to deny people or a union the right to live as they choose then those individuals have the right to defend their lives and property.

NO ONE has the right to initiate force. Do we go back to the days of the WV coal field wars and the Matewan Massacre or Battle of Blair Mountain???.

 

[700UW]

The company is free to hire whom they want, the union doesnt supply the potential employee, and in a closed shop, which the potential employee knows about and the company agreed to doesnt supply the candidates nor does the union hire the employee.

And in an open shop a union must represent non-members yet those non-members dont pay dues.

 

[southwind]

So its ok when the newspaper workers were on strike in Detroit in the middle of winter and they ordered the firemen to spray them with hoses so break the picket line?

Guess what the fireman refused.

Guess you never heard of Pinkerton, Wakenhut, the Haymarket Square, GM Bridge, Matewan?

So its ok for companies to use violence against strikers?

And there is NOTHING in the article about a labor monopoly.

http://www.theblaze....brief-history/#

How 'bout everybody just use violence against everybody !

 

[Kev3188]

Consider the source(s), guys. A man named Peter List writes the "labor union report." He makes a sh*t ton of money every year scaring the living bejeezus out of employers (including Southwind's and mine) through op-ed posts like this, and through his firm "Kulture LLC (sic)."

He's also a coward who refuses to respond to direct questions. Like most people of his ilk, he likes to stand in the shadows, launch the occasional grenade, and then collect fistfuls of cash while we (America's middle class) fight each other.

 

[NewHampshire Black Bears]

It's not OK for governments and companies to use violence.

A union by definition is a labor monopoly, it's seeks exclusive control of the supply of labor companies can use.

What do UNIONS...have in-common with these 3 following Words;
1. America
2. Apple Pie
3. Chevrolet

??

Answer,............"EVERYTHING" !

 

[777 fixer]

Posted by Pi brat on the USAirways forum

http://www.redstate....abor-do-it-too/

I have to hand it to sites like redstate. They have managed to convince people like you that this is a serious issue confronting the United States.