The Canadian Helicopters Shaft

[Rotorhead]

{RE:Attn: Rotorhead

By the way, is M. Seniuk your engineer in Ven. this tour?



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Yes, Mike is still there, He will be headed home on the weekend. I parked the Shortsky (HJU) in Maturin for a while pending further work Today, I am in Caracas surrounded by dozens of airline flight crews from around the world. Sitting at the pool, cervesa in hand, not a bad place to end a short tour in the jungle camp.

RH

 

[ChairmanoftheBORED]

Magseal said:

"A smart management team would have by now."
Nuff said there.

Smart is not the word to describe the "management" of CHL, EMS or Eastern. It is all a bunch of lads who were just like you and I and who eventually graduated up the ladder to controlling positions of authority. They were not employed for their educations or degrees in Business, proven history or track records in business; but merely due attrition they were left holding the bag.

Take a look at the EMS division for a lack of leadership.

What CHL dumped there is now a base manager (not that Sudbury are complaining)....the senior pilot keeps bending, denting, overheating and xxxxing up things and yet still sets the standard...(not that Sudbury are complaining 🙂)....the CP will not make a decision on any subject without talking to the accountant....all being instructed by training pilots with only 400hrs on type, flying 20+ yr old machines with engine O/H issues.... in a medically driven operation 🙂

There is more but who's counting.

Regardless who disagrees, it is apparent that Saturnman is correct. Union is required. It won't help much of these issues above but it will help impose a standard.

EG:It is unfair when a medic can get a $400 dollar jacket issued solely to them and $400 boots issued while the pilots (half the crew by the way) are told to shove it. That is a small example of how unions create a level playing field.

Glad to be gone

 

[Vortex Ring]

I don't think a Union is quite the way here. What the helicopter industry needs more than anything else is sometine like ALPA.

An unified voice representing pilots and AMEs in the helicopter industry to approach a helicopter company, medical association or the government to address these concerns.

I have no doubt that plank drivers would gladly share their experiences and offer assistance in launching such a venture. A similar one has begun in the US I think, Canada seems long overdue. Just listen to yourselves, you love your work, you love (the majority) of the folks you work with. Stop taking this crap and join forces to speak out.

 

[Blackmac]

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On 7/28/2003 7:38:09 AM Vortex Ring wrote:

I don't think a Union is quite the way here. What the helicopter industry needs more than anything else is sometine like ALPA.

An unified voice representing pilots and AMEs in the helicopter industry to approach a helicopter company, medical association or the government to address these concerns.

I have no doubt that plank drivers would gladly share their experiences and offer assistance in launching such a venture. A similar one has begun in the US I think, Canada seems long overdue. Just listen to yourselves, you love your work, you love (the majority) of the folks you work with. Stop taking this crap and join forces to speak out.

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Holy gosh, gee, heck darn oh what the hell, sounds familiar.

 

[downwash]

Got to admit I don't know much about ALPA but CALPA is sure as hell a union. What, if anything, is different about ALPA, Vortex Ring?

 

[Cambox]

Funny, I can't think of anything really that Canadian has given the industry except maybe keep tarrifs artificially low and cause a lot of really good companies go out of business.......... Thoughts???

 

[407 Driver]

...Don't forget Pilot training. CHX has trained a lot of pilots for other operators. They do offer some good training opportunities, if you can get around the 3 years of forced slavery at below minimum wage.

 

[Butch Grafton]

Here is how our last contract turned out here at LSI.

Air Log is in negotiations now and we expect theirs to be better than this one.
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Junior pilots get a 46.17% pay increase over the life of the contract.

1 Jan 2003 = $44,200.00
1 Jan 2004 = $50,700.00
1 Jan 2005 = $55,162.00

Senior pilots get a 26.85% pay increase over the life of the contract.

Blue Cross/Blue Shield medical insurance maximum benefit increased to two million dollars.
Our monthly premium at contract end increases to….
Individual $66.00
Individual & Child $112.00
Individual & Spouse $144.00
Family $170.00

You can sell back up to three weeks of vacation time if you wish.
You get paid for up to twelve days of unused sick leave annually.

Maximum shift time is 6.5 hours.
Time and a half for overtime.
Double time for Sundays and Holidays.
$25.00 Night differential.

Junior pilots get 1 week of paid vacation after one year along with two paid weeks off at Christmas.
Senior pilots get 3 weeks of paid vacation along with two paid weeks off at Christmas.
Here is what a senior pilot can get after 24 months into this contract working straight shifts…...

Base Pay + 401K = $82,102.00
3 weeks of vacation sold back = $4,751.00
12 days of sick leave sold back = $3,801.00
Total Cash Value $90,654.00

 

[Fling Wing]

You should get your facts straight,the "doghouse" fell from the machine do to a failure of the belly hook relay.

 

[T-rex]

Oh buddy! I got my facts straight, Another CHL hook failure!!!Relay, What ever pal! More like finger problems up front! Relays just don't release!!! Sorry, been around to long for that!!! Maybe CHL should upgrade some of their outdated antiques!!!! Anyways, you broke it, you bought it! I am sure Don W, Bob M, and Bob H, were really happy to pay that one out!!! I know the customer wasn't pleased!! Faulty relay!!! You made my day!

 

[Fling Wing]

Obviously you don't know the facts, I saw the faulty relay,shook it in my hand to hear the chunks of what ever rattling around inside,watched them bench test it and fail.And since you've been around for such along time then you must know that this isn't the first time the hook relay on the BH212 has been suspect to failure.As far as finger problems,have I got a finger for you.

 

[Vortex Ring]

Might not be exact same piece of gear but I flew Twin Hueys in the Forces in early eighties and did plenty of slinging, had three inadvertent load releases.

Seems problems were faulty parts and worn relays.

 

[Bladestrike]

I saw three buckets go in the drink in two days around '91, plus I've seen a Kaboda and a slightly damaged 206 dropped from 212's with inadvertant releases. (I didn't actually see them drop, but I did witness the results)

 

[downwash]

Help, Kyle! How did the previous five posts end up on this topic???

 

[MagSeal]

a proper electical hook system would not allow an electical fault to release the load. It all depends on which side of the circuit is hot. a short, or failure of a relay, switch of circuit breaker should have that system neutral. The only way a hook should release is to have power directly to it, a short that allows the power to go to ground should have no effect on the hook since the power isn't even getting close to the hook. I hope I made myself clear.