The Concept Of "craft Or Class"

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The Concept of “Craft or Classâ€￾

This is Federal Legal concept “Craft or Classâ€￾

In accordance with the Railway Labor Act, the Federal Government has decided that certain work groups have a mutuality of interest at the bargaining table and in advancing worker related issues, and that groups outside of that particular craft or class should have no participation in how the union is run or at least in the initial decision as to who represents that work group. And so Pilots vote with Pilots, and Flight Attendants as matter of law are prohibited from voting with the Pilots. And in turn, the Pilots are prohibited by law from voting with the Flight Attendants because they are considered to be in different Craft or Classes by the National Mediation Board. And Mechanic and Related Workers within the Airline Industry are entitled by law to vote just amongst themselves.

Supporters of the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) believe that it comprises our mission to remain associated within a union structure with other crafts or classes that according to Federal Government do NOT share our mutuality of interest. The mission is further compromised when we remain associated with other crafts or classes within the union structure of “majority ruleâ€￾ and our particular craft or class is the minority in size. The Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) is the only union in this current debate at American Airlines that says “We will forbid ourselvesâ€￾, it will be unconstitutional for us to go and represent baggage handlers, flight attendants, or passenger service clerks, and we will not let ourselves do that because this would compromise our mission. We wish the baggage handlers and other crafts or classes on the property the very best, but they cannot pick our pockets, we wish them to get the very best on their own, but they should no longer be allowed to ride on our backs. In other words, it is time for the airline industry to decouple the mechanic vs. baggage handler pay and benefit structure. It is suffice to say that since deregulation of the airline industry which since enactment has created enormous competition and pressure on airline ticket pricing, and that has resulted in the craft or class of mechanic and related workers suffering in economic buying power, and especially when compared to the Pilots and Flight Attendants who at American belong to craft specific unions. In the mid 1970’s, the Flight Attendants of American Airlines were also represented by the Transport Workers Union of American (TWU), and just as the mechanics today seek a change to a craft specific union, they also left the TWU in favor of the independent Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA) The craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American Airlines can no longer afford to remain in an organization that advocates a linking of different work groups that according to law do not share a mutuality of interest.

Regardless of good or bad economic times, and regardless of whether the union is negotiating concessions to prevent a bankruptcy filing or negotiating from economic growth with corporate profits, the formula by which the economic pie is divided amongst the union membership is a union decision. The recent concessions are a clear case in point, because American Airlines was demanding $620 Million in concessions from the TWU, but how those give backs were divided up was a union decision, not a company decision. And the facts are clear, that the craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American took more than our fair share of that amount, and it is also clear this was a union decision.


AMFA IS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR SKILLED TECHNICIANS
 
TWU informer said:
The Concept of ?Craft or Class?

This is Federal Legal concept ?Craft or Class?

In accordance with the Railway Labor Act, the Federal Government has decided that certain work groups have a mutuality of interest at the bargaining table and in advancing worker related issues, and that groups outside of that particular craft or class should have no participation in how the union is run or at least in the initial decision as to who represents that work group. And so Pilots vote with Pilots, and Flight Attendants as matter of law are prohibited from voting with the Pilots. And in turn, the Pilots are prohibited by law from voting with the Flight Attendants because they are considered to be in different Craft or Classes by the National Mediation Board. And Mechanic and Related Workers within the Airline Industry are entitled by law to vote just amongst themselves.

Supporters of the Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) believe that it comprises our mission to remain associated within a union structure with other crafts or classes that according to Federal Government do NOT share our mutuality of interest. The mission is further compromised when we remain associated with other crafts or classes within the union structure of ?majority rule? and our particular craft or class is the minority in size. The Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association (AMFA) is the only union in this current debate at American Airlines that says ?We will forbid ourselves?, it will be unconstitutional for us to go and represent baggage handlers, flight attendants, or passenger service clerks, and we will not let ourselves do that because this would compromise our mission. We wish the baggage handlers and other crafts or classes on the property the very best, but they cannot pick our pockets, we wish them to get the very best on their own, but they should no longer be allowed to ride on our backs. In other words, it is time for the airline industry to decouple the mechanic vs. baggage handler pay and benefit structure. It is suffice to say that since deregulation of the airline industry which since enactment has created enormous competition and pressure on airline ticket pricing, and that has resulted in the craft or class of mechanic and related workers suffering in economic buying power, and especially when compared to the Pilots and Flight Attendants who at American belong to craft specific unions. In the mid 1970?s, the Flight Attendants of American Airlines were also represented by the Transport Workers Union of American (TWU), and just as the mechanics today seek a change to a craft specific union, they also left the TWU in favor of the independent Association of Professional Flight Attendants (APFA) The craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American Airlines can no longer afford to remain in an organization that advocates a linking of different work groups that according to law do not share a mutuality of interest.

Regardless of good or bad economic times, and regardless of whether the union is negotiating concessions to prevent a bankruptcy filing or negotiating from economic growth with corporate profits, the formula by which the economic pie is divided amongst the union membership is a union decision. The recent concessions are a clear case in point, because American Airlines was demanding $620 Million in concessions from the TWU, but how those give backs were divided up was a union decision, not a company decision. And the facts are clear, that the craft or class of Mechanic and Related at American took more than our fair share of that amount, and it is also clear this was a union decision.


AMFA IS THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR SKILLED TECHNICIANS
Just what does the law say are the interests of the rampers, stores people etc?

Last I noticed we all did it for a paycheck. Of course SWA has almost the perfect amt situation...very few people from unrelated groups lumped in with the mechanics. very few mechanics considering the size of their fleet also.
 
j7915 said:
Just what does the law say are the interests of the rampers, stores people etc?

Last I noticed we all did it for a paycheck. Of course SWA has almost the perfect amt situation...very few people from unrelated groups lumped in with the mechanics. very few mechanics considering the size of their fleet also.
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j7915,

Why don't you contact the National Mediation Board and ask them the specific interest definition of the baggage handler or the stock clerk? If the only qualification factor was a desire for a paycheck, then the Pilots and Flight Attendants would not be in seperate crafts or classes either.

BTW, Southwest is not only increasing mechanic headcount, they also recieve a much bigger "PAYCHECK" than you, which you just claimed was your main interest.
 
I notice the TWU Worshipers do not cast any opposing views about craft or class concepts and our need to be in a union of membership that the Federal Government has decided will share our mutuality of interest.

Even the simpleton can understand this concept, and the industrial unionist cannot refute the factual existence of this Government enacted concept.

CIO,
What is your opinion on the concept of craft or class?
 
TWU informer said:
CIO,
What is your opinion on the concept of craft or class?
My guess is "that a loaf of bread costs him the same as me, and if it dont you should move to where it does, unless of course to are an International officer, then you should get much more bread than anyone else because you deserve it for dealing with the ungrateful, 15 minute attention spaned members who will not participate"
 
Bob,

They obviously cannot answer to the concept of "Craft or Class".

Something so basic, so simple, and so logically is beyond their understanding.
 
j7915 said:
Just what does the law say are the interests of the rampers, stores people etc?

Last I noticed we all did it for a paycheck. Of course SWA has almost the perfect amt situation...very few people from unrelated groups lumped in with the mechanics. very few mechanics considering the size of their fleet also.


j7915,

Have you gotten any information on the concept of craft or class from the NMB yet?
 
TWU informer said:
j7915 said:
Just what does the law say are the interests of the rampers, stores people etc?

Last I noticed we all did it for a paycheck. Of course SWA has almost the perfect amt situation...very few people from unrelated groups lumped in with the mechanics. very few mechanics considering the size of their fleet also.


j7915,

Have you gotten any information on the concept of craft or class from the NMB yet?
Actually, I just wanted to get the AMFA answer, which really makes it a rhetorical question.

You seem to assume that I am happy with my paycheck, I am not. However I am not a large capital ME guy either. That would put me in the GOP camp, along with lots of other very unsavory characters, who are now taking the "my client is really too stupid to have understood his job fully" crowd.

Interesting that someone would do a cut'npaste on the voting rights, but didn't want to answer the question. In all honesty I don't care who is lumped in my "class or craft". My ego is not dependent on my job anyway.

Lets just get rid of everyone but the highly skilled, at work or in BS talent. I have no doubt I will still be here, how about you?
 
Your skill means NOTHING, Your A&P is comparable to a Driver's Licence! A loaf of Bread cost the same for everyone Brother! Sit Down and shut up! Don't make Waves, your Out of Order! You ask to much questions, you must have a nothing to do! We couldn't be as strong without Fleet Service!



Quote from "Air Transportation":
(second edition) by Alexander T. Wells
 

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Explanation: You do not have to be together with other work groups to get what you want! Strength in numbers is Bogus!!! Fleet Service can stand alone and do good, as well as, Mechanics standing alone and bargaining at the contract table!

Look where you are now with Industrial Unionism, Bogus, bogus, bogus!!!!
 

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