The truth finally comes out

[AWA320]

Hey don't shoot the messenger as I did not write this. The truth is that most east pilots realize that the kept their relative positions however wish to make the west pay for the losses sustained over the years. This is not our fault however they don't care we must bear their cross. :down:

QUOTE(wopr21 @ Jun 11 2007, 01:19 PM)

Thats your problem, you can't see past today. On the Nic list ,I have my relative seniorty today, but I have much to loose as the years go on. My career expectations have been in a perpetual flux since I got hired. DOH is all we have left over here. I will not stand idle and watch a 98 hire steal a well earned and deserved position from me or any of my colleagues.
Take a look a little closer and you will see an enlightened reality.

By the way, we are not your "pals" and your path to the truth is flawed.

wopr21

 

[oldiebutgoody]

Man,
you really need something else to talk about. How about getting yourself some kind of social life somewhere? I guess I wouldn't want to hang around somebody that kept harping on this one topic.

 

[freedom]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beating_a_dead_horse

Beating a dead horse is an idiom which means a particular request or line of conversation is already foreclosed, mooted, or otherwise resolved, and any attempt to continue it is futile. In British English, the phrase is usually rendered as flogging a dead horse

The first recorded use of the expression is by British politician and orator John Bright, referring to the Reform Bill of 1867, which called for more democratic representation in Parliament, and which Parliament was singularly apathetic about. Trying to rouse Parliament from its apathy on the issue, he said in a speech, would be like trying to 'flog a dead horse' to make it pull a load.

There are claims that the phrase originates in 17th century slang, where a "dead horse" was work that was paid for in advance. Flogging, either literally or figuratively, the dead horse was an attempt to coax enthusiasm out of workers who had already been paid and thus were not going to gain any further profit by hard work. This attribution may derive from a statement reportedly made by Admiral William Smythe that "To get a day's work out of a crew during the dead horse month is like flogging a dead horse." Historically, it was common practice to pay a ship's crewmen in advance for their first month's work, which they would usually have spent prior to even boarding the ship on which they were to work. For the first month on board, therefore, they felt as though they were working for nothing, and so they were not terribly motivated. After approximately one month, ships out of the British Isles reached the Horse Latitudes. The problem here is that there is no mention by Smythe of the Horse Latitudes or any explanation of why he supposedly used the phrase "flogging a dead horse".[citation needed]

This attribution confuses "flogging a dead horse" with an entirely different phrase - "to work (for) the dead horse". This phrase was slang for "work charged before it is executed". This use of 'dead horse' to refer to pay that was issued before the work was done was simply an allusion to using one's money to buy a useless thing (metaphorically, " a dead horse"). Most men paid in advance apparently either wasted the money on drink or other such vices or used it to pay debts. The earliest (1638) written example of dead horse says as much: "His land 'twas sold to pay his debts; All went that way, for a dead horse, as one would say." The Smythe quotation is a red herring. He was simply referring to what was already known as the "dead horse month", or the month of no pay, and how difficult it was to get work out of the men during the dead horse month

 

[nostradamus]

Mahatma Gandhi
"Truth resides in every human heart, and one has to search for it there and to be guided by truth as one sees it. But no one has a right to coerce others to act according to his own view of truth."

 

[EMBFA]

Can we PLEASE combine all of these threads into one????? There are too many threads about the same topic. Every second post is about the same subject. This particular thread quotes another thread from today! It should be moved back into the previous post.

If you want to reply to someone or bring attention to a quote do it in the same topic.
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Be advised that this can you a trip to the cornfield.

 

[nostradamus]

Can we PLEASE combine all of these threads into one????? There are too many threads about the same topic. Every second post is about the same subject. This particular thread quotes another thread from today! It should be moved back into the previous post.

If you want to reply to someone or bring attention to a quote do it in the same topic. I know it makes your dick feel bigger to start a new post but come on. No attention at home or what?

I have never seen the need to start a new thread myself, I have always wondered why.

 

[nostradamus]

Wait a minute I think EMBFA just touched (no pun intended) upon a way we can settle all this.

 

[flygirl74]

well, considering the age of our East pilots...THAT would not be a pretty sight!
Would that be an "at rest" measurement or "soldier at attention" ???

 

[ussnark]

Hey don't shoot the messenger as I did not write this. The truth is that most east pilots realize that the kept their relative positions however wish to make the west pay for the losses sustained over the years. This is not our fault however they don't care we must bear their cross. :down:

As has been pointed out to you before, the "award" was not relative position. No way, no how.

Until you normalize the contracts, and add or subtract the pilots to staff them according to the same contract, merging the lists will not be "relative position". Get with the program.

 

[nostradamus]

well, considering the age of our East pilots...THAT would not be a pretty sight!
Would that be an "at rest" measurement or "soldier at attention" ???

We would insist on the metric system and a day to go to our pharmacists.

 

[A320 Driver]

Hey don't shoot the messenger as I did not write this. The truth is that most east pilots realize that the kept their relative positions however wish to make the west pay for the losses sustained over the years. This is not our fault however they don't care we must bear their cross. :down:

QUOTE(wopr21 @ Jun 11 2007, 01:19 PM)

Thats your problem, you can't see past today. On the Nic list ,I have my relative seniorty today, but I have much to loose as the years go on. My career expectations have been in a perpetual flux since I got hired. DOH is all we have left over here. I will not stand idle and watch a 98 hire steal a well earned and deserved position from me or any of my colleagues.
Take a look a little closer and you will see an enlightened reality.

By the way, we are not your "pals" and your path to the truth is flawed.

wopr21

A real "smokin gun" you have there, AWA320.


You need something else to occupy your time. It's almost like you are afraid that something will happen to your seniority award unless you find a way to save it.


A320 Driver B)

 

[AWA320]

A real "smokin gun" you have there, AWA320.
You need something else to occupy your time. It's almost like you are afraid that something will happen to your seniority award unless you find a way to save it.
A320 Driver B)

Oh not at all. You have the very difficult burden of proof, not us!! I am sure that you will not prevail in your attempted coup.

The real sad fact is that you don't understand the difference between seniority and longetivity!! As I have stated many times, your 18yr pilot was on the bottom of your own list and by virtue of that fact he should be placed right along with our bottom guy. That's exactally what this award does. What you wish to do is leap frog to the front becaues you were with AAA however you didn't move much. Now I don't mean you personally as I am speaking in general terms however I think you get the point.

 

[Edward]

AWA320
I happen to agree with everyone else. You keep starting threads on the same topic. Lets discontinue doing this. This one is closed.