Time to Monger a Rumor!

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Keep hearing the old rumor that AA takes the East and that UA or Republic takes the West.

These are of course just fourth hand rumors but are persistent. Until USA320 chips in we will not know for sure.

Personally, I don't see the AA synergy vs. UA but if anyone would like to enlighten me I'm glad to listen.

This should provide some new meat for the pilots to chew on for awhile.

As far as anyone's opinion on Macaskill-Bonds? affect on fragmentation I would be interested.

Some good old fashioned rumor mongering is good for the soul.

 

[ekjkj]

This is absurd!!!

 

[freedom]

wow since we're talking rumors you'll NEVER guess what i just heard!!!!

get ready .....





UNITED and US AIRWAYS are going to merge! i don't know when , but the rumor says sometime in the future!!! wow !!! who would have ever thought of that!!!

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

This is absurd!!!

Maybe, but I'm not making this up.

It seems to be fairly prevalent, more so than anything I've heard lately.

Of course it seems that the rumors that I actually hear DON'T come true but the ones I've never heard of do come true - go figure.

 

[beachboy]

Remember the morning we work up to the Delta drama? That will be exactly how the next mess happens. With trading halted on CNBC.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Remember the morning we work up to the Delta drama? That will be exactly how the next mess happens. With trading halted on CNBC.

It seems pretty lame to me considering UA 4.0 but who knows.

What I'm curious about is why even start this? It supposedly came from a TA pilot, for what it is worth.

I can only see two advantages to AA and probably none for US.

1. Whats left of the Shuttle.

2. CLT.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Be Careful What You Wish For said: "As far as anyone's opinion on Macaskill-Bonds? affect on fragmentation I would be interested."

USA320Pilot comments: Be careful, you bring up a good point regarding a fragmentation or even a full blown merger. if USAPA is successful in re-ordering seniority within a contract and wins the legal battle this could have ramifications for all employee groups dependent upon the future corporate transaction. For an interesting read on how USAPA's actions could hurt other employee groups, not only the pilots, click here.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

USA320Pilot comments: Be careful, you bring up a good point regarding a fragmentation or even a full blown merger. if USAPA is successful in re-ordering seniority within a contract and wins the legal battle this could have ramifications for all employee groups dependent upon the future corporate transaction. For an interesting read on how USAPA's actions could hurt other employee groups, not only the pilots, click here.

Are you referring to Macaskill-Bonds? and is this applicable to a merger or an acquisition or does it matter?

 

[exB717Flyer]

I think the APA and USAPA would be a great fit. The APA got to impose a seniority integration favorable to them on the TWA pilots and USAPA attempted to do that to the AWA pilots. A marriage made in heaven.

 

[USA320Pilot]

Be Careful,

I believe the argument is if USAPA wins its appeal and the case is remanded back to Judge Wake's court lets say for the sake of argument Addington loses and USAPA is not guilty of DFR. Now we have a federal order, which would apparently override the McCaskill-Bond amendment to the Omnibus bill, where the union would apparently be free to re-order seniority inside the contract.

Now for example, lets say US Airways and American merge. American's Flight Attendants are unhappy about the McCaskill-Bond amendment so they decide to do what USAPA has taught the industry. The APFA and its members decide to elect a new union, use their majority votes to impose their will on the US Airways Flight Attendants, and they staple the US Airways Flight Attendants to the bottom of the merged seniority list, just like the APFA and American Flight Attendants did to the TWA Flight Attendants.

When you think about this deeper not only is USAPA's actions hurting the pilots it has the potential to be very damaging to every employee on the property if a merger occurs like you indicated to start this thread. I encourage every US Airways employee to closely read this link, by clicking here to think about how the pilots union's actions could affect you.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

I think the APA and USAPA would be a great fit. The APA got to impose a seniority integration favorable to them on the TWA pilots and USAPA attempted to do that to the AWA pilots. A marriage made in heaven.

No one seems to be addressing the new arbitration guidelines should this happen.

Is this applicable to: 1. a merger or 2. an acquisition or both?

 

[exB717Flyer]

No one seems to be addressing the new arbitration guidelines should this happen.

Is this applicable to: 1. a merger or 2. an acquisition or both?

All mergers are in fact acquisitions so it's an irrelevant distinction.

The Bond-McCaskill law takes effect if at least 51% of a company is acquired. This could be a player.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

All mergers are in fact acquisitions so it's an irrelevant distinction.

The Bond-McCaskill law takes effect if at least 51% of a company is acquired. This could be a player.

Thank you.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

What would seem fairly reasonable to me is a UA, Republic split.

They seem to have their nose bloodied by WN over F9.

Obviously, what seems reasonable is not what always takes place.

This could be one of those BCWYWF moments - East gets AA and West gets Republic.

Something to look forward to... or not.

 

[SegmentKing]

Republic doesn't have the cash to buy the West.