Tulsa $500 Million Savings

[Hopeful]

What do you think will happen the end of 2006 if Tusa does not achieve $500,000,000.00 in savings?

 

[AMFAMAN]

What do you think will happen the end of 2006 if Tusa does not achieve $500,000,000.00 in savings?

[post="252609"][/post]​

I think you should add on "BLAME AMFA,' after all, according to the twu, everythings AMFA's fault.

 

[Hopeful]

I think you should add on "BLAME AMFA,' after all, according to the twu, everythings AMFA's fault.

[post="252630"][/post]​

Yea, I forgot about that!

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

What do you think will happen the end of 2006 if Tusa does not achieve $500,000,000.00 in savings?

In order to save thousands of jobs the twu will bring back more concessions.

 

[local 12 proud]

burchette talks out of both sides of his mouth, at the base conference he stated that we must get cost down to compete with MRO's and that we are overmanned on the docks, and then he turns around and says he is doing everything possible to bring back the 700 twu members from tulsa who are still on the street. Either way you can bet we will be bullied for more concessions when all is said and done!

 

[Buck]

burchette talks out of both sides of his mouth, at the base conference he stated that we must get cost down to compete with MRO's and that we are overmanned on the docks, and then he turns around and says he is doing everything possible to bring back the 700 twu members from tulsa who are still on the street. Either way you can bet we will be bullied for more concessions when all is said and done!

[post="252681"][/post]​

Has anyone counted the number of those who have retired or left the company for other reasons, to determine if that number is anywhere near 700?

Bringing those back off of the street on an attrition basis is not a labor gain.

 

[AMFAMAN]

Since the 2001 layoffs, including the TWAers(twu forgets about them), attrittion numbers are well over 1,000.

 

[MCI transplant]

Since the 2001 layoffs, including the TWAers(twu forgets about them), attrittion numbers are well over 1,000.

[post="252936"][/post]​

<_< No s### Sherlock!!!!!!!

 

[coolflyingfool]

I don't personally see how AA can get $500 MM out of TUL, without shutting it down. I think AA is just trying to get big concessions. Just my thoughts........

 

[aafsc]

I don't personally see how AA can get $500 MM out of TUL, without shutting it down. I think AA is just trying to get big concessions. Just my thoughts........

[post="253678"][/post]​

It could mean $500 million in additional revenue brought in by third party work. I can't see how they can cut half a billion dollars in cost from one maintanence base. I believe TUL has around 7,000 people. Lets say that on average the compensation (wages and benefits) is about $70,000 a year per person. $70,000x7,000=$490,000,000 in annual compensation expense for TUL. To reach the $500 million, everyone would have to work for next to nothing. That is why I think they mean revenue.

 

[FWAAA]

It could mean $500 million in additional revenue brought in by third party work. I can't see how they can cut half a billion dollars in cost from one maintanence base. I believe TUL has around 7,000 people. Lets say that on average the compensation (wages and benefits) is about $70,000 a year per person. $70,000x7,000=$490,000,000 in annual compensation expense for TUL. To reach the $500 million, everyone would have to work for next to nothing. That is why I think they mean revenue.

[post="253745"][/post]​

I agree - you are correct. Of course, AA said a combination of additional revenue and cost savings and immediately, the "Sky is Falling" crowd begins moaning about concessions. Cost savings can mean money-saving efficiencies (like the well-publicized mechanic-inspired rigs for overhaul of the Trent engines at AFW) or other efficiency gains.

Here's what AA said:

http://www.aa.com/content/amrcorp/pressRel...tulmebase.jhtml

For Chrissakes, I wish that the mechanics would just vote in AMFA already so everyone can see how little the name of your union matters when your employer is bleeding cash and must cut costs before it runs out of cash.

Unions matter a great deal when there's a pie to divide. But since unions can't print money, the dues they collect are simply a waste of the employees' paychecks when the pie is shrinking.

 

[coolflyingfool]

Sorry about the misunderstanding. I see the $500 MM total now. I did know that the math did not add up. Thanks for the help.

 

[AMFAMAN]

For Chrissakes, I wish that the mechanics would just vote in AMFA already so everyone can see how little the name of your union matters when your employer is bleeding cash and must cut costs before it runs out of cash.

[post="253746"][/post]​

It was AA that stopped the last vote last year. Let us vote and the debate will be done. BTW...this drive started in 1998, back when we made money. The airlines money woes has no impact on my decision to change unions, just the pathetic twu leadership we have been dealt, the past 22 years.

 

[Hopeful]

Delta is seeking to save $240,000,000.00 over five years in maintenance costs.

AA is seeking $500,000,000.00 in 18 months!

RIGHT!




Associated Press
Delta Announces Tech Operations Cuts
Tuesday March 29, 7:01 am ET
Delta Announces Technical Operations Cuts in Move to Save $240 Million Over Five Years


NEW YORK (AP) -- In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Tuesday, Delta Air Lines Inc. said it will restructure its technical operations division in a move to save $240 million over five years.
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The airline plans to partner with two suppliers for heavy maintenance work, resulting in a 34 percent cost reduction. Delta will partner with Miami-based Avborne to conduct work on its MD-88 and MD-90 fleet types and with Vancouver-based Air Canada Technical Services for work on the 757 and 767 fleets.

Delta said it will be responsible for monitoring proper execution of its maintenance program by the vendors.

The airline also will begin shifting package service visits and letter checks from its Tampa hangar to Atlanta to fill capacity created at Atlanta when heavy maintenance visits are transitioned to the new partners. Delta said it won't completely remove its presence at the Tampa hangar, but will continue to perform some line maintenance and ground service equipment work.

The airline expects to continue to concentrate competitive work in its primary base in Atlanta with the addition of a new Song mod line, the restart of two cabin condition program lines and continued in-house maintenance of its large fleet of JT8D-219 engines.

As Delta announced last September, 6,000 to 7,000 positions will be eliminated throughout the company as part of its transformation process. The moves outlined today will contribute to technical operations previously announced portion -- 1,600 to 2,000 jobs -- of this target.

 

[High Speed Steel]

What do you think will happen the end of 2006 if Tusa does not achieve $500,000,000.00 in savings?

[post="252609"][/post]​

hopeless, I will admit that I too have been a skeptic to the notion of the 500,000,000.00 savings goal established for Tulsa. But I have to tell you this. I had the opportunity to observe a Continuous Improvement close out today which was over "CI" events that have taken place over the past few weeks. I can see the potential to not only meet the goal, but exceed the goal in it's entirety. You better not count your chickens too soon......

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