WorldTraveler
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WorldTraveler said:But you aren't able to be in a position to be accepting a takeoff clearance That's what was happening here. Recall? In Kevlingo " know thy place"
How about A&P's who are also private pilots? I tell you what Kev, I won't comment on any theological missionary dissertation discussions if you won't either. ;-)Kev3188 said:Cool.
While you're being deferential, I count at least 2 posters that are or were familiar with movement procedures at busy airfields, and at least one airfield operations person.
ThirdSeatHero said:Yes, because as everyone knows, only pilots waiting for take off clearance, have had radio communication problems with the tower.
Taxi & Tow crews have NEVER been involved in any sort of runway incursion event EVER.
Our tower communications are pristine!
Deal!Glenn Quagmire said:How about A&P's who are also private pilots? I tell you what Kev, I won't comment on any theological missionary dissertation discussions if you won't either. ;-)
Very true. The airport in this situation (and also the other airport in the same city) prefers a read back of all instructions.Glenn Quagmire said:All hold short, Takeoff/landing, descend, climb via, runway crossing clearance should all be repeated as given by ATC.
being an A&P has nothing to do with it.How about A&P's who are also private pilots? I tell you what Kev, I won't comment on any theological missionary dissertation discussions if you won't either. ;-)
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It is clear that some have no idea what a runway incursion means. Those of us mechanics who have taxied and run up aircraft for all of our adult life have been properly trained.ThirdSeatHero said:Yes, because as everyone knows, only pilots waiting for take off clearance, have had radio communication problems with the tower.
Taxi & Tow crews have NEVER been involved in any sort of runway incursion event EVER.
Our tower communications are pristine!
It's always a qualifier with him. I'm not worthy; I've only moved aircraft under their own power on the same runways, at the same airport (many times through that exact intersection), and talked to the exact same controller. But I'm not a pilot, so what do I know?Glenn Quagmire said:It is clear that some have no idea what a runway incursion means. Those of us mechanics who have taxied and run up aircraft for all of our adult life have been properly trained.
Private pilots actuality talk to ATC. I don't hold my ATP, multi turbine, but I do know slightly more than a washed up, forced to retire, cubicle dwelling, donation seeking, rocking chair wannabe airline analyst, about 139 certificated airport movement areas, and ATC communications.
I think this thread has run its course Moderaters. DL crew effed up here. Stuff happens. Kudos to the Controller for preventing the deal.
WorldTraveler said:
Of course they haven't because they can't accept takeoff clearances.
Know thy place.
What is a Runway Incursion?
- Any occurrence at an aerodrome involving the incorrect presence of an aircraft, vehicle or person on the protected area of a surface designated for the landing and take off of aircraft.
WorldTraveler said:being an A&P has nothing to do with it.
being a pilot does.
If you want to argue that you are a licensed pilot, then say so and I can respect that.
And those who are not need to acknowledge they are neither licensed mechanics or pilots.