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Reality, your point is understood. As long as the RLA and BK laws favor the company, labor will be at a disadvantage. A management team that isn't interested in negotiating fairly and abiding by mediated decisions will destroy a company no matter which union or labor group is on that property.That isn't the point, at least not for me.
As a mechanic, I would rather have a democratic union that represents my interests first bargaining for me. It's that simple.
 
What happened or is still happening with AMFA at every one of those carriers is different so why do the industrial unionist try to use those stories as a tool against AMFA?

What happened at Northwest is not what happened and United.
What happened at United is not what happened at Alaska.
Ect, ect, ect,

WE THE MEMBERS will write our own story with AMFA at American Airlines and it will be a different story than each of those other stories.

And if the AMT's of this industry ever pull their heads out and get everyone into ONE union, the airline management will stop using one industrial union concessions against the others. The AMFA idea has not failed because it has not been tried. And as long as fools fail to grasp that concept then the industrial unions will keep us divided into different unions, as in IBT,TWU,IAM, AMFA and airline management will continue to use that divide as a mean to decimate this profession. Meanwhile we all fight amongst ourselves, blame each other, or one of the unions and we never try the simple idea of everyone getting into ONE UNION!

Before deregulation of the Airline Industry, AMT's being in seperate industrial unions was successful because the Government regulated pricing and landing slots. Each of the Industrial Unions would leap frog over the other unions in negotiations, constantly making pay and benefit gains and increasing the size of the work force. Since the 1978 Airline Deregulation Act, the Airline Management has reveresed that history and now we are in a race to the bottom in every aspect of those past gains, with management using the concessions of each industrial union as a tool to reduce the cost a their Airline.

Because we are idiots and remain divided and continously fighting with each other and blaming each others union, the Airline Management sits back and enjoys stomping our asses in the ground. This is why card drives for change keeping popping up at every carrier in the industry over and over and over.

Maybe someday, before it is too late, we will be smart enough to understand the AMFA idea of ALL MECHANICS in a single CRAFT UNION where every dollar,dime, and penny along with every thought of every second of everyday is SPENT advancing and protecting this profession.

AMT's like yourself are against the idea, yet it has never been tried.

AMT's like yourself claim the idea has already failed, yet is has never been tried.

AMT's like yourself advocate the status quo of representation which has represented the MAJORITY of this profession for over 60 years....and that has been tried and has FAILED.

Think about that and get back with me....
 
No guarantee that the judge would abrogate. If he did there is no guarantee that AA will impose the March 22 term sheet in its entirety. But one thing for sure is if we voted no or the contract was abrogated we would be in negotiations right now trying to work out a better deal. Any improvement over this LBO would have been an improvement.
Not looking for a industry leading contract but sure as hell not working under a industry lagging contract. We are so far below an industry average contract that if we go any lower we would all be in China. Maybe we should be in China working on OUR outsourced 777 aircraft. This gives an all new meaning to "follow the aircraft" to your next maintenance station.
True there is no guarantee Lane would have abrogated but read the decision on the APA. The APFA stated that after reading the decision they had every reason to believe the CBA would have been abrogated. Yes we were getting hit with the largest job loss however, that is the norm in BK. Just ask our colleagues at UA, US, CO, NW, and DL.

We are industry leading, we have the highest percentage of labor and material maintenance spend in-house per our contract language.
 
We are industry leading, we have the highest percentage of labor and material maintenance spend in-house per our contract language.
Ask the membership with the lowest morale in the industry if they're happy with having the highest percentage of in-house spend and in the coming years the thousands who will no longer be employed here. The playing of Phil Collins "I Don't Care Any More" in hangar 1 today exemplifies the lack of enthusiasm of working for AA.
 
I can't wait to get my walking papers so looking forward to a future that doesn't involve aircraft
 
You mean they all believe they died and went to heaven. Give me a break. Their management isn't far behind our management and if you think differently, you are gullible.
The only reason SWA management is after their unionized mechanic workforce, is because our management at AA his consistently ran over our industrial union.
 
Things seem to be deteriorating at SWA - Excerpt from AMFA website notice:



AIRCRAFT MECHANICS FRATERNAL ASSOCIATION

AMFA Local 11 ● 1420 W. Mockingbird Lane, Suite 285 ● Dallas, TX 75247 PHONE 214-366-4546 ● FAX 214-366-4546


Final and Binding

Dear Members our Company Leaders recent decision not to honor an arbitration ruling, (SWA -2587) that favored the Union is and should be a matter of great concern. The processes involved in Negotiating contracts requires a certain level of trust between the two parties, the idea being that both parties negotiate in good faith and subsequently honor all the negotiated language/agreements.

Over the past couple of years it has become clear that the Company is not playing fair. Southwest Airlines has a unique advantage over the AMFA covered employees, that whenever they choose they can and have ignored the terms of our CBA and the Union is left with no other option than to follow the grievance process. The slow and cumbersome process favors the Company; while the employees are denied certain negotiated rights the company realizes synergies i.e. cost savings. The monetary gains of the Company are at the direct expense of the employees, for example.

The Company has failed to meet its obligation to start a fourth line of maintenance within the specified time line agreed to in our CBA. A promise they made in order to gain our consent for international outsourcing.

Our Company is currently practicing an attendance policy that causes employees undue stress when they have the misfortune of becoming ill or injured. Per our CBA any employee who is legitimately sick or injured may take sick leave with pay. However per the new Company policy, if this should happen four times or nine days within a twelve month period the employee will automatically receive a disciplinary letter, notwithstanding the employee providing a legitimate Doctors note.

Southwest Airlines Leadership experienced several victories over the Union via the arbitration process, a process negotiated within the guidelines of the Railway Labor Act, and agreed to by both parties. The Company won the Holiday movement arbitration, a ruling that diminished our earning opportunities and saved the company money. The Company won the crown skin arbitration; they successfully outsourced work that is customarily ours. The Company won the Laptop arbitration, again successfully outsourcing work that is customarily ours.

During the month of May 2011 the Company experienced a rare loss via arbitration regarding the filling of temporary vacancies within the inspection classification. Within days of the ruling Company leadership began asking the Union for relief from the ruling, the Union politely said no. The Company next made it known to the Inspectors that if the Union did not provide relief the Company might abolish positions within the inspection classification; only weeks after adding twelve new positions. Now twelve months later our Company Leadership has decided to reinterpret the plain language of the Arbitrators ruling, creating the exact same dispute that originally drove the grievance (SWA – 2587) to arbitration.

Really?? Is this all you have?? If you can read this is a union that fights for it's members when the company does not follow an arbitration ruling. Once again you just pointed out a good deed by AMFA, and once again we all thank you. Please continue to post for the teamsters or the TWU, your doing a great job. This crap goes on at all the airlines. At least AMFA doesn't give up on it's members like the TWU and teamsters with conssesions. Your post makes no sence what so ever...
 
Their management isn't far behind our management and if you think differently, you are gullible.

Hmm, bad statement, I agree but you just killed your arguement, if the management is the same then how do you explain the fact that our contract is so inferior? Inferior in every way. Inferior in pay, Inferior in benefits. Inferior in workrules and even inferior as far as job protection for current members. The only thing you can say now is we have more mechanics working at AA than any other carrier but thats now just happenstance, besides more workers does not equate to superior contracts, WALLMART employs more workers than any other private corporation in the country, and much like AA they pay inferior wages, offer inferior benefits and have inferior workrules, but their workers dont pay 2 hours per month for those inferior terms. You and your kind are basically promoting the Wallmarting our profession while trying to pass yourself off as a Unionist. doing what Wallmart does isnt any better when its done by a Union, if anything its worse.

Let me guess-"the members accepted it"-blame the members-that's always the excuse of last resort.
 
The members accepted this pos because of your rhetoric to vote no on the 2010.
 
The members accepted this pos because of your rhetoric to vote no on the 2010.
wow I did not realize Bob had that much power as a president of only one local in the twu. Here I thought that after all these years Tulsa controlled the voting power. Did I miss something?
 
We all have our opinion, last time I checked it was still an almost free country.
 
Those are not opinions. Your venting like a drunken fool. Your pissed off like the rest of us. Take a time out and come back tomorrow with a clear head.
 
Let's not forget folks, Reality, Anomaly, Rice, Overspeed, ect... These individuals all know everything that goes on over here at SWA and they are not even employees. Amazing how they know all this.

By all means please keep posting, all of you.
 
Let's not forget folks, Reality, Anomaly, Rice, Overspeed, ect... These individuals all know everything that goes on over here at SWA and they are not even employees. Amazing how they know all this.

By all means please keep posting, all of you.

Not so sure you are an SWA mechanic either. Your "first hand" knowledge consistently seems to be inconsistent.
 

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