Ual Cuts Domestic Flights

[mrfish3726]

Tilton Quotes:

"Fundamental changes in our industry, including ongoing high fuel costs, intense pricing pressure and continuing overcapacity, demand that we take aggressive steps now in implementing this plan to ensure that United remains competitive," said Glenn Tilton, CEO of United and parent company UAL Corp.

AGGRESSIVE STEPS NOW, 22 months later LAUGHABLE

Tilton said the airline is on pace to achieve $5 billion in annual cost reductions by 2005. While United has not discussed details publicly, as many as 6,000 job cuts are expected to be announced in the coming weeks as part of that effort when it unveils a new business plan.

They never talk publicly about anything, employees find out on CNN.

Then they will get started on talking to labor to come in line with USAIR wages. So yes BUS it does look like big changes are coming BEFORE CHRITMAS.

 

[Fly]

Pathetic. You claim to hate management but what you really hate are the employees who, unlike yourself, didn't get fired.

 

[mrfish3726]

Fly

If I got fired I wouldn't have been receiving my RETRO payments from UniTED. Last one this month on the 15th, can't wait!

Was just pointing out to BUS that YES big changes were on the way before X-MAS just like he predicted!

 

[peasant]

Hmm, presumably Int'l flying is bigger aircraft than average domestic? So a 3% reduction in overall ASM will result in a bigger decrease in block hours? No wonder they have been staffing crew tight

 

[casual rat]

Fish, I wouldn't be spending your hypothetical "Retro Check" before you hypothetically receive it. I don't think that separated employees receive one. If you 'do' get it, why don't you photocopy it and post it in a Forum, so we can believe you...don't cross anything out--including the numbers-- that way we'll know it's 'Authentic'.

Boosting International Service is a wise idea, as is trimming some of our capacity. Fares need to increase, albeit somewhat. "There ARE signs of Intelligent Life on Planet United!"--Stuart Klaskin, Industry Analyst. Hopefully, they get the routes in sync.

 

[mrman]

With UA making this cutback it looks like this year WN will have more aircraft than UA by years end

 

[Borescope]

"UAL said it would continue to strengthen its hubs in Chicago, Denver, Washington, San Francisco and Los Angeles."

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I wouldn't be so happy about it. This stregnthing of the hubs doesn't necessarly mean job for UAL. Our friend John could be hired to bring his jets into the hubs as feeders (stregnthing the hub) :down:

 

[iflyjetz]

I wouldn't be so happy about it. This stregnthing of the hubs doesn't necessarly mean job for UAL. Our friend John could be hired to bring his jets into the hubs as feeders (stregnthing the hub) :down:

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Most likely an accurate assessment. Looks like UAL domestic mainline is being farmed out to the express carriers.
Perhaps UAL is doing this to hold slots until the domestic market can justify upguaging of those aircraft. Demand was obviously there this last summer; I hope that UAL has a plan to increase domestic capacity next summer, because cutting domestic capacity will have a negative impact on our international flights.

 

[C54Capt]

jetz,

From a historical perspective I would agree with your assessment about domestic reductions potentially having a negative effect on the international feed. However, don't you think that in the age of large alliances that this will be mitigated, especially if other domestic airlines are added to the alliance? It is quite different than the PanAm situation where they died because of the lack of domestic feed to their international system because of the absence of an alliance.

 

[WorldTraveler]

The concern is probably not that United’s international flights will lack the feed they need but that UA will lose domestic market share from which it cannot recover. Further, United will be in an even more uncompetitive situation if US folds or shrinks further itself and UA is in the position of shrinking its domestic system. AA and CO/DL/NW as an alliance would both have larger domestic systems than would UA. And while neither AA or CO/DL/NW have route systems comparable to UA now, they are going to be growing internationally as well. While United is far from shrinking to oblivion domestically, other carriers will grow into the international markets UA currently serves while still keeping their domestic routes.

 

[magsau]

The concern is probably not that United’s international flights will lack the feed they need but that UA will lose domestic market share from which it cannot recover. Further, United will be in an even more uncompetitive situation if US folds or shrinks further itself and UA is in the position of shrinking its domestic system. AA and CO/DL/NW as an alliance would both have larger domestic systems than would UA. And while neither AA or CO/DL/NW have route systems comparable to UA now, they are going to be growing internationally as well. While United is far from shrinking to oblivion domestically, other carriers will grow into the international markets UA currently serves while still keeping their domestic routes.

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World,

Did you miss the part about this being only a 3% reduction in ASM's????? UFB

 

[Rampman]

In the Washington Post they said that Dulles would be getting new international flights. Intresting to find out where...

 

[WorldTraveler]

magsau,
Did you miss the part about 14% cut in DOMESTIC capacity?

 

[magsau]

magsau,
Did you miss the part about 14% cut in DOMESTIC capacity?

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No I did not. However, with a tremendous amount of 5th freedom rights from NRT, new service to China and UAX adding the 70 seaters to make up for the 14% cut in MAINLINE flying of 737's I still believe you are missing the point. Perhaps reading more about the possible BK at DL would fit you more.

How about all that good ol'boy DL cuts at DFW? Is the sky falling? How about the fleet rationalization that is about to hit the DL group? IMO, DL is about to announce a tremendous amount of reduction in its fleet. Will this mean DL is giving up its domestic route structure and choking its feed by using RJ's.

You can not have it both ways. All the airlines are in a huge predicament and who survives is not predetermined. Contrary to popular belief.

 

[boeing787]

Those damn RJ's. Screw CHQ. I'm sick and tired of hearing about the emb170. Those will never compare to the guppy and not even close to the -400. F U express pilots. You are cutting your own throats.