Light Years said:
Hey Fly,
For someone who complains so much about Chip (do you ever work?) your ramblings have become pretty tiresome too.
MidAtlantic as a United Express carrier defies any sort of logic whatsover. I'm not going to go into the reasons again as I already have in an earlier post.
Yes, lets base our business plan on this particular type of aircraft that works well for US... oh, never mind! Lets just give it to United! After all we are codeshare partners. Let our own airline fall by the wayside, lets pour our time, money, employees, and resources into our codeshare partners competing hub for no reason. We can still operate 737s and Dash 8s into our own hubs, but compete with ourselves (what do you mean its not legal? who cares!) with 70 seat aircraft on routes formerly served for UA by props and RJs! Doubling capacity on those routes is fine because a UAL F/A says so! Hope the unions and the DOJ dont have a problem with a division of an airline pretending to be an Express carrier for someone else! Maybe as a return gift UAL will give us TED. They can base it out of BWI and call it WAY instead. This is great! We should ask flight attendants for advice more often. While we are at it, does Delta need anymore lift to Europe? I KNOW, lets paint the 330s as Delta and fly them out of Atlanta for them instead! Who cares about our own competing ops, its the Christmas season and we musn't be selfish. Scope clause scmope clause!
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You guys are just as bad as Chip, posting utter nonsense that has no basis in logic whatsoever.
I have a feeling that was supposed to be directed to me and not to "Fly."
When I brought this up on another thread, I remember seeing lots of reasons why U employees do not like the idea, but none that made an effective case that it was legally or financially impossible (at least to the extent that could not be cured by a few tweaks to any contracts) for MDA to become the UAX carrier out of IAD.
Does the idea "defy logic" at the moment? Perhaps. But have you not learned to expect the unexpected in this business, especially these days? Sure I would be the first to admit (as I did on the other thread) that this idea most likely will NOT come to fruition, but it is an idea that seems at least theoretically possible and would resolve several problems for several parties (U, UA, ACAA).
The fact is U's business plan is about to undergo some radical changes in the coming weeks and months and "everything is on the table," to quote your own CEO.
Because "this particular type of aircraft ... works well for US" means it will NOT work well for UA? How so?
"After all we are codeshare partners." Exactly. So since the U/UA marketing relationship is already established it should not be an unsurmountable obstacle to expand it in this way.
"Let our own airline fall by the wayside, lets pour our time, money, employees, and resources into our codeshare partners competing hub for no reason." I hate to break it to you, but PIT's days as a major U hub seem to be numbered. So are PHL's, once WN gears up. Not thinking of ways to adapt would be letting jobs die "for no reason."
"...70 seat aircraft on routes formerly served for UA by props and RJs..." can easily be solved by having another UAX carrier come in and take care of those routes. Or let them fade out altogether. The consolidation that is coming in the industry will lead to smaller cities losing service anyways sooner or later (remember Lancaster, PA?).
"Hope the unions and the DOJ dont have a problem with a division of an airline pretending to be an Express carrier for someone else!" Seems like Dave & Dave haven't had any problems getting things from the U unions so far, so I wouldn't expect this to be an obstacle either. And if it is, is there anything to stop D&D from spinning MDA off from USAir Group and making it an independent entity? And why would the DoJ care if CHO-IAD with a UA flight # is operated by MDA as opposed to ACA?
"You guys are just as bad as Chip, posting utter nonsense that has no basis in logic whatsoever." Ummm, hell-OOOO, this is an internet discussion board! This is the exact place to be posting thought-provoking ideas and discussing them! Just remember to take them for what they are worth. The only time to get suspicious is when someone starts posting that what they say is the truth and everyone else is wrong and just you wait and see, his secret sources tell him he is right and anyone who dares disagree is shooting the messenger.
"... because a UAL F/A says so! ... We should ask flight attendants for advice more often." It seems that the heart of your complaint about my opinion is that I am a lowly F/A so how DARE I have an intelligent thought about something besides the color of the aircraft interior. Unfortunately for you, this speaks volumes about you and your opinions and biases. It would probably be quite a shock for you to see my resume and know about my education and background.