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Well I agree. If I could be critical of only ONE thing.

I think that there should be an international uniform that is a bit more ellegant than the pieces Mr Herman has provided.


HE DID!! The blue dress IS ellegant. the bozos poo pooing it have NO taste, are too F :censored: fat or ugly, and wouldn't look good in ANYTHING!!

Jesus Christ, guys, we work for a cheap ass carrier who has crammed biz casual down our throats. Live with it already! If you wanna look like Delta, do work for f :censored: Delta.

Our new uniform nay not be the best, but it looks a hell of alot better than UAL or AMR AND NOTHING is as HORRID as what we have now.

9 pages about the uniform. 90% not liking it took NO time to go to the roadshow, listen to Stan, or fill out a survey. Typical STUPID f/a's...the same ones that never bother to go to a union meeting but biitches about the union. :down: :down: :down:
 
LCC#1,

I looked at the pics and frankly I didn't see anything that I thought was suitable for international travel.

The uniforms are a big improvement from the Prison Matron styles at many US Legacy carriers. SWA IMO went to far on the casual side.


VERY different in person.
 
LCC#1,

I looked at the pics and frankly I didn't see anything that I thought was suitable for international travel.

The uniforms are a big improvement from the Prison Matron styles at many US Legacy carriers. SWA IMO went to far on the casual side.
Bob,

You don't think the blazer and the tie will work for T/A? Neck wear for men and women will be REQUIRED for T/A ...ALL YEAR!
 
I understand that the pictures don't show every single piece because some pieces needed to be re-worked.

I think an international look can be spruced up with the scarf for women and for the men, they will wear a nice shirt and tie (if they iron it)

I don't understand why everyone is so concerned with "the transatlantic" uniform look...you're in those horrible uniforms now flying to those places...don't say there is nothing that is better than that.

It's a business casual airline and Bob is right, it looks business casual.
 
I don't understand why everyone is so concerned with "the transatlantic" uniform look...

Of course you don't. Apparently Tempe doesn't either.

Sorry if that sounds b****y, but they really don't seem to have a clue about the customers or the competition outside of the "Lets go to Vegas for the weekend and get drunk" crowd.
 
I understand that the pictures don't show every single piece because some pieces needed to be re-worked.

I think an international look can be spruced up with the scarf for women and for the men, they will wear a nice shirt and tie (if they iron it)

I don't understand why everyone is so concerned with "the transatlantic" uniform look...you're in those horrible uniforms now flying to those places...don't say there is nothing that is better than that.

It's a business casual airline and Bob is right, it looks business casual.
 
Stan...I hope you read these remarks. You are a class act and I admire your interest and passion for what you do. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DUMP THE "HERITAGE SCARF" It looks juvenile and cheap. There is nothing crisp or professional about it. The colors are blase' and the little planes too rotund. I think it will end up in everyones drawer but never on their body. The F/A's at Usairways want to move up...not down.
Thanks for listening.

Just my opinion
 
Stan...I hope you read these remarks. You are a class act and I admire your interest and passion for what you do. But PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE DUMP THE "HERITAGE SCARF" It looks juvenile and cheap. There is nothing crisp or professional about it. The colors are blase' and the little planes too rotund. I think it will end up in everyones drawer but never on their body. The F/A's at Usairways want to move up...not down.
Thanks for listening.

Just my opinion

The heritage scarf is great!! I love it...I also love the zip dress...and I also love the pants!! I have taste and I don't think you do when it comes to things like this.

If you don't like the scarf don't wear it...there are a lot of people that love it and many that don't so that is what is good about this uniform. We are going to be different and I like that quality.
 
The heritage scarf is great!! I love it...I also love the zip dress...and I also love the pants!! I have taste and I don't think you do when it comes to things like this.

If you don't like the scarf don't wear it...there are a lot of people that love it and many that don't so that is what is good about this uniform. We are going to be different and I like that quality.


The heritage scarf is great!! I love it...I also love the zip dress...and I also love the pants!! I have taste and I don't think you do when it comes to things like this.

If you don't like the scarf don't wear it...there are a lot of people that love it and many that don't so that is what is good about this uniform. We are going to be different and I like that quality.
The dress...very HOT... the scarf NOT...Wear it in New York...lots of giggles...ever been there?
 
The dress...very HOT... the scarf NOT...Wear it in New York...lots of giggles...ever been there?

Hey easy with the NY thing. Stan LIVES in NYC and I lived there for 12 yrs and love the scarf!! ...All a matter of opinion. Just don't wear it. I would but the guys can't. HEHE!
 
Hey easy with the NY thing. Stan LIVES in NYC and I lived there for 12 yrs and love the scarf!! ...All a matter of opinion. Just don't wear it. I would but the guys can't. HEHE!
Unless they are cross-dressers! :lol: 😛
 
If you don't like the scarf don't wear it...there are a lot of people that love it and many that don't so that is what is good about this uniform. We are going to be different and I like that quality.


I guess after seeing the heritage scarf I can now see why it's not liked very much....It's a great idea and yes the scarf looks really nice with the uniform/dress. My problem with it is that it's very child-like with toy airplanes on it. I'm suprised Stan Herman didn't use the Airline logos that are already on the heritage pins that most of us wear.....I think the actual logos on a scarf would have been something much nicer to wear and would have looked a little more adult and professional. As far as the new uniform goes in general I think it's perfect for the kind of airline we are now.....and it's much nicer than current "city transit driver" look we have now!
 
I think Stan is a good designer and I got the feeling he wanted to do something a little nicer (like the dress)for us but the company wants everything as cheap looking and casual as possible in line with thier ongoing quest to lower the nations expectations. Theres some OK pieces, I'll work with it like I work with the current one.

I think its just a bit of a letdown that after all our sacrifice and hard work the company sees us as a work group in gym warmups and, for chrissakes, skorts. And yet again being cheap we have to share a uniform with everyone from customer service to cart drivers to Express carriers. You don't see any of the big airlines allowing anyone but mainline F/As wear the F/A uniform, customer service has thier own uniform and express carriers either have thier own or a "similar but different" to the mainline one... It not only builds employee morale (you can feel proud in your specific uniform), it also helps the customer differentiate who is what.

Its not that bad and there are enough pieces for people to try and make thier own look out of... hopefully people will try to look professional at least in the markets where it matters. That said, the company decided to lower the bar in every way possible for the customer so if a chick in culottes is serving a pizza in a cardboard box to an Envoy Class customer, well, hey, thats what they wanted. There should be no surprise from an airline that thinks ads on tray tables, no coat closet, plastic cups, and no overhead space is "first class".

Yes, its just a uniform, but its what some people wear nearly EVERY day of thier lives for up to 14 hours. Its a huge component of how you feel as a representative of your employer. It is important. People thought an airline that wants to expand in Europe and just now get into the Asian market and be taken seriously as a merger partner might want to have a strong, classy look... The disapointment seen here is just what the poster above said... people were hoping to go UP, not down...
 
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