United Continental Shifts Jobs to Trim Costs
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eolesen
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Enough of the hijacking already. What DL or AA did 20 years ago isn't the topic.
The fact is that UA finally caught up to what the rest of the world has been doing. Whether or not it's because the IAM held it off for this long, or because UA chose not to go this route for whatever reason just isn't relevant now that the decision has been made.
The fact is that UA finally caught up to what the rest of the world has been doing. Whether or not it's because the IAM held it off for this long, or because UA chose not to go this route for whatever reason just isn't relevant now that the decision has been made.
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no it is absolutely relevant.
because UA IS doing it now while the IAM's chief internet propaganda agent continues to try to convince everyone of the value the IAM if offering.
If the IAM can't do any better than what someone else did 20 years ago, then there is no value in the IAM.
and best of luck to UA and their employees as they try to right the ship.
It would be great if they could do it without having to cut stations but they are beginning to look like they are serious about addressing other issues which have plagued UA.
may UA and its people always thrive.
because UA IS doing it now while the IAM's chief internet propaganda agent continues to try to convince everyone of the value the IAM if offering.
If the IAM can't do any better than what someone else did 20 years ago, then there is no value in the IAM.
and best of luck to UA and their employees as they try to right the ship.
It would be great if they could do it without having to cut stations but they are beginning to look like they are serious about addressing other issues which have plagued UA.
may UA and its people always thrive.
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my desire is to see the UA people succeed and NOT BE HARMED by the union that they hired to represent them.
In the meantime, living in Paradise isn't quite as much fun if you have to vote to determine if you can stay there in your present job.
all the best to the good people of UA and may their company find its way back to success.
In the meantime, living in Paradise isn't quite as much fun if you have to vote to determine if you can stay there in your present job.
all the best to the good people of UA and may their company find its way back to success.
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and then there is stuff like this that breaks your heart and makes anyone realize what really matters.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/United-Flight-Attendant-Found-in-Trunk-of-Car-266533381.html
A longtime United Airlines flight attendant was found dead in the trunk of a car in Gary, Indiana on Monday.
DeCarol Deloney-Cain, 54, of Crown Point, was discovered in an abandoned car in a remote wooded area in the 2000 block of East 22nd Place.
The victim suffered multiple stab wounds, blunt force trauma to her head and her body was wrapped up, according to the Lake County Coroner who didn't make a make a positive identification until Wednesday.
May all comfort be there for DeCarol's family, friends, and coworkers.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/United-Flight-Attendant-Found-in-Trunk-of-Car-266533381.html
A longtime United Airlines flight attendant was found dead in the trunk of a car in Gary, Indiana on Monday.
DeCarol Deloney-Cain, 54, of Crown Point, was discovered in an abandoned car in a remote wooded area in the 2000 block of East 22nd Place.
The victim suffered multiple stab wounds, blunt force trauma to her head and her body was wrapped up, according to the Lake County Coroner who didn't make a make a positive identification until Wednesday.
May all comfort be there for DeCarol's family, friends, and coworkers.
http://www.goiam.org/index.php/imail/latest/13006-ohio-senator-slams-uniteds-outsourcing-plans-#.U7gxpqPC4qg.facebook
In a letter to United CEO Jeffrey Smisek, Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown (D) questioned the airlines’ recent decision to outsource certain smaller “line stations” to low-paid vendors.
Click here to read Brown’s letter.
IAM members and staff launched legislative efforts after United Airlines announced its outsourcing strategy, which could force hundreds of workers to relocate, to inform the public and put pressure on the airline’s leadership to rethink its outsourcing plans.
“I write today to express concern about the impact of your decision to rebid a number of line stations at airports across the country,” wrote Brown. “Further outsourcing airport occupations will exacerbate the race to the bottom for wages in the airline industry – an action that has significant implications for the American middle class.”
United’s operational and financial performance has lagged that of its industry peers – Delta and American – and has spurred many of the airline’s critics to question the carriers’ business strategy.
The current IAM contract for ground workers requires that United follow certain contractual guidelines, which includes negotiations, before any outsourcing can occur.
During congressional hearings regarding the merger of United, Continental and Continental Micronesia, CEOs Glenn Tilton and Jeffrey Smisek both assured Congress that the mega-merger would not have a negative impact on frontline employment levels.
Click here to read Brown’s letter.
In a letter to United CEO Jeffrey Smisek, Ohio Sen. Sherrod Brown (D) questioned the airlines’ recent decision to outsource certain smaller “line stations” to low-paid vendors.
Click here to read Brown’s letter.
IAM members and staff launched legislative efforts after United Airlines announced its outsourcing strategy, which could force hundreds of workers to relocate, to inform the public and put pressure on the airline’s leadership to rethink its outsourcing plans.
“I write today to express concern about the impact of your decision to rebid a number of line stations at airports across the country,” wrote Brown. “Further outsourcing airport occupations will exacerbate the race to the bottom for wages in the airline industry – an action that has significant implications for the American middle class.”
United’s operational and financial performance has lagged that of its industry peers – Delta and American – and has spurred many of the airline’s critics to question the carriers’ business strategy.
The current IAM contract for ground workers requires that United follow certain contractual guidelines, which includes negotiations, before any outsourcing can occur.
During congressional hearings regarding the merger of United, Continental and Continental Micronesia, CEOs Glenn Tilton and Jeffrey Smisek both assured Congress that the mega-merger would not have a negative impact on frontline employment levels.
Click here to read Brown’s letter.
eolesen said:
You are correct Eolesen. Since UA (and CO) did not have their own outsourcing arms (to keep the money and product "in house" so to speak) we don't have a built in "D" scale to buffer against. Example: DGS was doing our work in a split operated station like PHX. Now we control the whole ramp and upstairs. But DGS and Eagle does a lot of our work, in effect giving money to the competition. More stations are supposed to be insourced as well. (I guess they are saving those slots for the next two rounds - 15 and 15, since the bid file is closed) It seems like the company and union is trying to keep the "bump and roll" to a minimum, keeping costs down, and making SFO the preferred place to go to. We knew the cuts was coming (especially CLE) but CLE wasn't supposed to happen this fast. It was supposed to be gradual. And since there were options PHX and SFO for ramp and DEN and other places for ATW. I'm just surprised that a BK contract had more scope instead of this one.
Bottom line, it was going to happen. All the union can do it try to mitigate the damage. A good buyout package (instead of the tiered "scheme") would have gotten the required numbers, and then some. That can still happen (if the company was creative enough since many want out) It'll cost about as much as the TWO consulting groups that the company is paying.....
I fly to DSM often and they are a very senior station with what I am told is "hundreds of years" of combined seniority for a station their size. Also keep in mind that Eagle still has the contract for flights to IAH and EWR at DSM.
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can someone post the section 1 of the UA ramp contract. From what I remember it basically allows United to cut every mainline station that isn't a hub.....700UW said:
and Delta doesn't lay off an FA when they close a base BTW. They just become commuters.
Oh and so far the cut backs in CVG have resulted in more mainline employees (sadly it was mostly RR) but Delta took over the ramp in CVG and hired around 100 people.
just sayin....
