Us Airways: Cuts Ahead For Top Tiers

[USA320Pilot]

US Airways: Cuts ahead for top tiers - Airline says it will slice $40 million from management pay, as well as lower benefits

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Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[700UW]

On Monday, US Airways spokesman David Castelveter said the airline is not yet ready to reveal details. The airline does not need court approval to cut the pay or benefits of nonunion workers.

Wow, lets see $38 million a month from employees and only $40 million a year from management, absurd!

 

[flyhigh]

What % of employees is mgmt? What percent of payroll is mgmt?

 

[vc10]

Remember that a lot of management employees also walked the plank the week before Ch 11. So this is the second round of cuts.

Wow, lets see $38 million a month from employees and only $40 million a year from management, absurd!

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[robbedagain]

well it least it is a start may be they will try to get back the millions from any of the five clowns that left. i doubt it though and it most liekly wont happen

 

[robbedagain]

another thing is that mgmt can start traveling as nonrevs just the way we the employees do. let them give up their free space positive first class travel perks and force them to go nonrev but not by seniority of their but by the employees. that would save a bunch of dough!

 

[Schatzee]

With the paycuts that US management is wanting CWA to take, their new rate of pay is LOWER than Revenue Accounting non-union employees in INT.

VOTE NO!

 

[enilria]

Wow, lets see $38 million a month from employees and only $40 million a year from management, absurd!

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"Christopher Chiames, US Airways senior vice president of corporate affairs, confirmed the airline plans to cut about $45 million of its $201 million management payroll"

Let's see, total mangement payroll is $16.7m/month (201/12), so if management matched the $38m cut from other employees that would reduce management payroll to -$22m/month.

Doesn't seem like the math works to me. Oh wait, management on average makes much less than the average pilot and there are fewer management employees than almost every single labor group (except dispatchers and simulator trainers).

I'm holding back my desire to make a rude comment about math skills.

 

[ITRADE]

Yup.

45 divided by 201 = 0.223881. 22.4% wage reduction.

Next?

 

[BoeingBoy]

enilria,

No, the math is fine. Math always is (that's why it was my favorite subject), although the people that use it can slant it to produce the desired results (as you showed.

23% of $201 million is $46.23 million - more than management say's they will give up.

I suspect that a lot of the $45 million that they say they will give up will come from the lower ranks of "management" - those making much less than the average pilot. And that is the really unfortunate part.

Jim

 

[whlinder]

With the paycuts that US management is wanting CWA to take, their new rate of pay is LOWER than Revenue Accounting non-union employees in INT.

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Whose job is more difficult?

 

[ITRADE]

How do you measure difficulty???

How do you measure the difficulty of a legal secretary versus the janitor who empty's the secretary's trash at night?

 

[whlinder]

I have no clue how to measure it, I suppose difficult is the wrong word. I guess it would be better to ask which job requires more skills. But seeing as how it is outrageous to some that CWA workers could make less than Revenue Accounting folks, I am asking what makes that outrageous?

 

[reznc]

Now by going out and putting my neck on the chopping block here, as I think I understand it, in the past before CWA, alot of people in INT moved around departments, it appears to be the norm. Tired of res move over to Consumer Affairs or DM or Rev/Acctg for awhile, so this in fact caused alot of seniority as people had the ability to move around when they got tired of an area. (Part of the old Patriarchial company system and these were seen as equal positions).

Rev/Acctg is seen as an easier job as has less public contact. In fairness to them they have had numerous lay offs, and personally speaking if they are getting paid more than me, they deserve it, as their workload has probably trebled. I know, I know.... some of their work was outsourced to Mexico, but that does not take away from the fact that they are the most helpful. kind people I have to deal with, and have never treated me as a moron, even when I have asked some outrageous questions.

I just dont agree with complaining because they get more money than I do, they are not management they are not unionised, we have no business in their business.

 

[BoeingBoy]

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Jim