Us Airways May Cut Jet Fleet

[USA320Pilot]

US Airways may cut jet fleet

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Respectfully,

USA320Pilot

 

[luvn737s]

Maybe US will sell the Airbus fleet to Mesa (they've got A320's on the Midway certificate). It will help to have lots of recommendations from US management detailing attedance and your willingness to fly broken airplanes when you show up for the Mesa interview.

 

[A320 Driver]

Don't knock it till you try it.

A320 Driver

 

[Seatacus]

Could be the Left Coast is toast. :blink:

 

[Art at ISP]

I do not understand why they would consider parking widebodies if Transatlantic is a moneymaker. Are they considering abandoning international altogether???

Doesn't make sense to me.....

 

[tadjr]

Doesn't make sense to me.....

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Come on Art, you didnt just say that did you? 😛

 

[USA320Pilot]

The A330s have large lease payments due this fall and require expnseive heavy maintenance at a time when the company must preserve cash. The B767s require heavy maintenance as well, which is costly.

The company does not want to pull out of European flying, but may be forced to due to union resistance to change. The alternative business plan may occur because of losing RJ delivery's and not having new labor agreements. The idea is to convert to an LCC with only East Coast point-to-point focus city flying.

There is a very narrow window of opportunity for labor to get onboard with the TP or the airline could convert to the 150 aircraft plan or even worse liquidate.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

 

[Art at ISP]

Tad,

Point taken.

Best wishes my friend,

 

[mrfish3726]

If I worked for USAIR, I'd OPT for liquidation and get the hell out of this business. It's time to shake this industry to the core and get rid of the have nots and let the haves move on and prosper. The industry needs a HUGE capacity reduction so the LCC's can grow and prosper.

 

[delldude]

The A330s have large lease payments due this fall and require expnseive heavy maintenance at a time when the company must preserve cash. The B767s require heavy maintenance as well, which is costly.

funny thing there mr.minister of propaganda...in your latest company proposal...the "out of seniority "clause seemed to me to get rid of '57 and '67 old farts...then why would they wish to dump 330's unless you are full of booloney?
i'm selling the farm also..................... 🙁

 

[Art at ISP]

Delldude,

I agree with you regarding the 330's. I can see the Boeing fleet going immediately--actually if you get rid of all the 737's aren't you right around 150 jets left on property?

Mrfish, you are sadly mistaken if you think 100,000 mile plus fliers are going to flock to LCC's. They cater to the once a year traveler, and although they do get some business, their lack of services and interlining capability crosses them off the list. There is a place for a properly run full service airline (although that is quickly becoming a contradiction in terms).

My best wishes and thanks to you all......

 

[Bud8EE]

The A330s have large lease payments due this fall and require expnseive heavy maintenance at a time when the company must preserve cash. The B767s require heavy maintenance as well, which is costly.

The company does not want to pull out of European flying, but may be forced to due to union resistance to change. The alternative business plan may occur because of losing RJ delivery's and not having new labor agreements. The idea is to convert to an LCC with only East Coast point-to-point focus city flying.

There is a very narrow window of opportunity for labor to get onboard with the TP or the airline could convert to the 150 aircraft plan or even worse liquidate.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

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I think you stated in another post about how CH 11 allows for fixed cost reduction that cannot be accomplished without the courts. That argument while good in theory is a fallacy. It is evidenced by CAL and the UAIR BK. UAIR is the only legacy carrier who has seen its per 9/11 non-labor cost rise as a percentage of unit costs. Outside of UAL which is still in BK, the benifit of judicial help wasn't worth squat. The non judicial restructuring of the other legacies have been more sucessful. Why?, Because of shrewder decisions and a lack of knee-jerk reactions to right size. Shrinkink does not work in this industry, for a various number reasons. CAL which after its CH 11 in 83-85 enjoyed a still great route structure and labor wages at 50% of the industry but remained a crap-box outfit till 1995. What turned it around wasn't the so called huge competitve advantage, it only aided a dedicated talented mangement who used it to "build" and "grow" the company and rewarded the employees along the way. Just as mergers in corporate america have proven to never deliver the value promised so will rightsizing or downsizing lead an airline into oblivion. It is only the arrogance of some to believe that they will succed where everyone else in a similar persuit has failed. If it is tried it will be a spiral inward to oblivion. I will even have the decency not to post "who first said it here first?"

Bud

 

[mrfish3726]

Art At Isp,

Mrfish, you are sadly mistaken if you think 100,000 mile plus fliers are going to flock to LCC's. They cater to the once a year traveler, and although they do get some business, their lack of services and interlining capability crosses them off the list. There is a place for a properly run full service airline (although that is quickly becoming a contradiction in terms).

I guess you don't know that much about Frontier Air Lines. First of all we have a Summit Member club that just exceeded the 1 millionth customer mark. And they don't have all the stupid restrictions and blackout dates that Legacy Carriers up on their supposedly dedicated 110K fliers. We have a VERY dedicated business catering to business flyers who have grown tired of being screwed by the legacy carriers with their un-fair and OVERPRICED fares. Most business flyers don't care if they ride in FC or Business class. They just want good service, and reasonable fairs. Obviously you haven't viewed an F9 route map lately. We fly to just about any city that one of your 100K fliers might go for a business day. And we offer decent meals and snacks on appropriate flights. Not to mention that every PAX has their own personal Direct TV available to them in the seat back. All this on a soon to be completely NEW Airbus fleet, we only have 6 B737 that will all be gone next year.

SO, PLEASE spare us the rhetoric of what services you offer. The LCC's can offer the same services at a lower price. And if your 100K customers were smart they WOULD be booking flights on your Alliance Partners instead of USAIR, they might not get the services that you brag about ANYMORE.

 

[ITRADE]

So, Mr. Fish, when can I book my award ticket on F9 to Tokyo? Or Montego Bay?

 

[usfliboi]

So art, convince people to pay more for a full service airline... I mean this what the majority wants it seems.... Sad but so true