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Grinstein's Fears Coming True As Delta Downgraded

Greg Levine, 08.09.05, 4:03 PM ET

The "economy" as an abstract notion seems to be strengthening. But don't tell that to Gerald Grinstein. The chief executive of Delta Air Lines (nyse: DAL - news - people ) has of late vowed to do all he could to stave off bankruptcy at the carrier--but warned that a Chapter 11 filing may be inexorable.

On Tuesday, the No. 3 U.S. airline got another nail pounded into it, and its stock showed the damage. According to The Associated Press, a Merrill Lynch analyst lowered the Atlanta-based firm's rating from neutral to sell. He augured that the historic jump in oil prices would wipe out cost savings from Grinstein's radical restructuring program. The AP quoted a JPMorgan analyst as declaring it "all but assured" that Delta would file for Chapter 11 if it doesn't get a cash infusion in the near term--and oil prices may tighten lenders' pocketbooks.

Delta shares sank 27 cents, or 12.11%, trading at $1.96 late Tuesday afternoon on the New York Stock exchange.

Meanwhile, another troubled legacy had better news Tuesday. A U.S. bankruptcy judge permitted US Airways (otc: UAIRQ - news - people ) to forward its restructuring plan to creditors for a vote. The judge's OK constitutes a key step in lifting the carrier out of its second bankruptcy. CEO Bruce Lakefield said Tuesday's hearing was a "another good step" in US Airways' path to reorganization. He said the firm hopes to formally emerge from bankruptcy in late September or early October. And what timing: It was revealed Tuesday that investors of America West Holdings (nyse: AWA - news - people ), the parent of America West Airlines, will vote on Sept. 13 on whether to OK the firm's merger with US Airways. Things will heat up in autumn.
 
"good goes around" hmmm. aparently their slogan should be " what goes around comes around"
 
rising... what a relative term. Anyone here think UAir is going to pay dividends to its stock holders?? Anyone here think UAir equity will return better gains to its stock holders than the average S&P 500 stock? Over the next 3,5,10 years? any one here think the airline industry is going to florish and be the new driver of wealth and value in the 21st century, out stripping bio tech, nano technology, healthcare?

Define rising... Oh you mean employ a bunch of union workers who have alarmingly few transferable skills to any other industry, and do so at continually reduced wages???

rising.... :p
 
US is just farther along the process of humiliation. Delta will follow and so will other carriers.
 
Let me rain on your parade:

Southwest gains, US Airways falls
Every airline, with the exception of US Airways Group Inc., reported passenger gains at Pittsburgh International Airport in June, and newcomer Southwest Airlines had the third-most riders, airport officials said Monday.

Southwest Gains, US Airways Falls
 
700UW said:
Let me rain on your parade:

Southwest gains, US Airways falls
Every airline, with the exception of US Airways Group Inc., reported passenger gains at Pittsburgh International Airport in June, and newcomer Southwest Airlines had the third-most riders, airport officials said Monday.

Southwest Gains, US Airways Falls
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Big deal, US Airways is still the biggest airline in Pittsburgh without really trying or caring. That says alot.
 
Light Years said:
Big deal, US Airways is still the biggest airline in Pittsburgh without really trying or caring. That says alot.
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U had 600,000 or so enplanements on 200+ flights. LUV had 67k on 10 flights.

If LUV went to 80 or 90 flights, they would carry the same number of pax with half as many flights, and amost all the LUV traffic is O&D.

See also: BWI.
 
whlinder said:
Wow, they really have themselves convinced that they are going to be low-cost and make buckets of money.
Sounds like Independence Air to me.
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Yea , but why are all these investors willing to dump money in this merger investment ? They must see something after they sign that confidential statement.
 
700UW said:
Let me rain on your parade:

Southwest gains, US Airways falls
Every airline, with the exception of US Airways Group Inc., reported passenger gains at Pittsburgh International Airport in June, and newcomer Southwest Airlines had the third-most riders, airport officials said Monday.

SpinDoc replies:

Well, DUHHHHH. If you continue to cut flights
as US has done in PIT, then your traffic
will decrease. The brain trust in CCY made
a serious error in gutting PIT. They traded
operational efficiency and relatively low
baggage problems for the crown jewel in
PHL. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
 
SpinDoc said:
They traded
operational efficiency and relatively low
baggage problems for the crown jewel in
PHL. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

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I couldn't agree more. PIT seemed to be at its best under adverse conditions...where PHL is a disaster on the best of days , regardless if the weather and ATC Gods are working in their favor..as rare as that is these days.
 

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