Us Airways Warns It Could Collapse By Feb.
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USA320Pilot said:
Once again you post inaccurate information.
A topped out Utility person at US Airways makes $17.47 an hour, not $20. That is $36,000 a year. And once again let me inform you, US flies into 89 mainline stations, there is only utility at BOS, CLT, DCA, LGA, PIT, PHL, LAX and SFO on all three shifts. So that leaves 81 stations where the ramp, F/A or a vendor cleans the airplane, the ramp makes more then Utility and the F/As basically clean for free. There are 10 stations that have only third shift utility for the RON cleaning.
Stick to the facts and not false information.
Glad to see that you want to throw the lowest paid of the unionized employees under the bus to save your own job.
And Jetblue does some C-check work in MCO at the hangar they have and they are building a state of the art maintenance center in MCO and have a hangar at JFK also.
USA320Pilot said:
What the hell is Material Services anyway? Who wants to bet its a tiki hut in the Virgin Islands where they hide all the money.
It is co-located with the shared services organization in tropical Harrisburg, PA 
Handles bulk purchases of Fuel, and other "Materials" used by the two wholly owned subsidiaries, and so,me of the affiliate express airlines and possibly MDA.
Handles bulk purchases of Fuel, and other "Materials" used by the two wholly owned subsidiaries, and so,me of the affiliate express airlines and possibly MDA.
The bankuptcy laws combined with government financial intervention has totaly usurped the concept of survival of the fittest and has totally distorted the true free market. Darwinism has to be allowed to take place in order to have a more healthy industry in the long run, but due to the generous bankruptcy laws and various forms of government intervention, it can't evolve as it should.
What cracks me up is when someone says "The governement has to do something!" or "Our senators have to do something!" The only thing the governement needs to do is reduce the taxes on tickets.
What cracks me up is when someone says "The governement has to do something!" or "Our senators have to do something!" The only thing the governement needs to do is reduce the taxes on tickets.
NeedForSpeedNFS
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Stand corrected on the mechanic count!!!!! Thanks AP Tech. My point still stands , though GOOD DAY!!!!AP Tech said:
WestCoastGuy said:
You are exactly right. My wife used to work for twa and she told me after our first round that there would be at least 3 rounds. I didn't believe her. Well, here we are. She said that until we tell them "no" they'll keep coming back for more because they perceive us as weak. Where do you draw the line? I drew mine after round 2. No more.
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Cav, I condensed your quote to these last two paragraphs. Once again, you have hit the nail on the head. Again, thanks for your level-head, RATIONAL responses. They make SOME posters to these boards look like the "stooges" they really are!!!cavalier said:
GOOD DAY!!!!
NeedForSpeedNFS
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Post what I was responding to!!!!!!!! That way, 7 0 0, people would see why I said what I did!!!! Like you always say.... Post ALL the facts!! Don't pick and choose to suit your purposes of trying to make others look bad!!!700UW said:
GOOD DAY!!!!!!!!!
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USA320Pilot said:
Whose services were paid for by management, and whose fee, in the past, has increased if employee groups who he is "representing" accept concessions.
Let's call a spade a spade, shall we?
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NeedForSpeedNFS said:Cav, I condensed your quote to these last two paragraphs. Once again, you have hit the nail on the head. Again, thanks for your level-head, RATIONAL responses. They make SOME posters to these boards look like the "stooges" they really are!!!
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Thanks for the comments NFS
It seems I pissed some people off stating TRUTH about "some" of the IAM shenanigans. These are TRUE very TRUE facts and there is way more that I will not go into because I just wanted to show the world that unions are NOT blameless like some union reps try to claim on theses boards. Everyone can take some blame, not one man or one thing and saying otherwise is simply foolish.
I just heard our man Frankie the IAM leader, "as I write this" saying on the radio they will fight the pay cuts, sure they will. They can't even fight for individual members who have trouble and yet say in the media they will save everyone’s a-z-z-, what a joke.
These leaders are human, fallible humans and until they become eternal entities then and only then will I give them or management serious consideration as to what they say is truthful.
Good luck all, the most help you will receive is some free training and possibly a small amount of money for education for a transition from our government. The unions will not save you from the big bad wolf anymore than you can yourself.
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This is NOT throwing the lowest paid unionized employees "under the bus"!! This is REALITY!! The old days of this industry are OVER 700!! NEVER to return!! In all honesty, would you pay a cleaner upwards of $18/hour if YOU owned a business??? If you can answer yes with a straight face, your fooling yourself. Everyone who is a regular poster to these boards knows this to be true, including YOU!!Please spare us of your past diatribes of needles, throw-up,Blah, BLAH, BLAH!!! My daughter works in a hospital, is exposed to more bodily fluids, blood, airborne pathogens, etc, than you have probably ever even seen in 17 some years!!! She gets paid $20/hour, had to go through 2 years of schooling and become LICSENSED!!!!! How much schooling do cleaners and stock clerks have to endure,and/ or PAY for???? HHMMMMMM???? POINT MADE!!!!!! :angry: GOOD DAY!!!!!!700UW said:
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