I may have been furloughed for a bit..but I was at MAA.. and I did non rev and Deadhead..I was always served a pre dep drink at east when non reving..What do you mean by you hope it comes over to the east? Who ever is not doing it is lazy. As far as I know it is procedure to do pre dept drinks when the flight is running on schedule. If it is running late we are not to serve a pre dept drink. That is how it was at east and I think still is. I guess I will find out June 1st when I come back.
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We do pre-departure drinks.
FCYTravis
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I have never gotten one when flying in the F-cabin on US Airways A321s. It's always just a bottle of water.
The reason you are not seeing name tags on uniforms is because they don't exist.... When there was an international division there was a name tag for transatlantic flights only.. one said CSD, one said Purser etc but its no more now that its all one. Theres never been a nametag.. US Airways does not have nametags for F/As. You may have seen some creative ones who embroidered it on an apron or something but thats another example of making up your own thing.
The A321 is not possible for pre-dep drinks unless the load is light and boarding starts on time.... it was supposed to use the 2L door for boarding like 757 but they couldnt modify the jetways or something... its easy on a 757 you can do a really nice service and even start to take orders and hang coats. Ive done a drink for all of full FC on an A321 on a short flight alone and barely had time without 150 something people in the aisle with bags... 30 minutes boarding, 26 orders, putting it together and still trying to do counts and paperwork, bag stowage, cockpit etc with 150 people trying to board is a challenge... cut them a break on an A321. Otherwise if the flight is late or boards late they are not supposed to, and an UMs or such takes priority. that is policy. the bottle of water by the way is not policy we are not supposed to give a full bottle of water ever, so there they are not following procedure again but going above and beyond. see the trouble here? dammed if you do dammed if you don't
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Since when is not giving a full bottle of water policy in first. That is all I drink, and I am always given the bottle of water. I am not tolaking the litre botle, but the one that is about 250ml
your not supposed to lay them out in the FC seats pre-boarding... and unless somethings changed you are supposed to pour water, not give the bottle unless they specifically ask for it and only in First. we all do, a FC pax deserves a bottle at the least but you are not supposed to.
Just looked in the P&P whicj is a #### to access only on thehub...
Serve bottled water in a plastic glass without ice (unless customer requests).
Bottles of water are served only upon customer request.
For coach it says:
If a customer requests a bottle of water, offer him/her a second glass of water.
Just looked in the P&P whicj is a #### to access only on thehub...
Serve bottled water in a plastic glass without ice (unless customer requests).
Bottles of water are served only upon customer request.
For coach it says:
If a customer requests a bottle of water, offer him/her a second glass of water.
FCYTravis
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I think the deal with the A321 boarding through 1L is that the 2L door is so close to the wing and engine, they were afraid that one slight jetway mistake would create a really, really costly maintenance issue. There's not much margin for error there.
FCYTravis
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No kidding 😛
Perhaps I wasn't clear. I know it's more difficult to do a bev service on the 26F A321s that US East operates, but I see the US Westies navigating the same sort of jam-packed boarding crush to serve the 12-seat F-cabin on the US West A319/A320s. It is doable 😉
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You are forgetting the issue of safety or maybe you are unaware since you are not familiar on the A321. During boarding, the "A" is upfront boarding alone per procedure while "C" is by 2L/R. There needs to be an F/A by the doors during boarding and since the two upfront have to split up to cover four doors; this is very different than when there are two F/As responsible for TWO doors, 1L/R. When you see someone try to serve, that is nice but they are neglecting their primary duty.
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Your exactly right. It's a 26 seat 1st class cabin on the 321...that's a lot of space. We are supposed to be near our assigned doors during boarding/deplaning. Every set of doors must be covered and the "A" at 1L should never leave the boarding door unattended. The F/A at 2L is assisting in coach. While you may see a few attempt pre departure drinks they really are not doing the right thing which is adhering to safety procedures. We used to have 1 more F/A on that aircraft which made all the difference in the world. Back then it was possible to balance the safety and pre departure during boarding but with minimum staffing it's not.
Your exactly right. It's a 26 seat 1st class cabin on the 321...that's a lot of space. We are supposed to be near our assigned doors during boarding/deplaning. Every set of doors must be covered and the "A" at 1L should never leave the boarding door unattended. The F/A at 2L is assisting in coach. While you may see a few attempt pre departure drinks they really are not doing the right thing which is adhering to safety procedures. We used to have 1 more F/A on that aircraft which made all the difference in the world. Back then it was possible to balance the safety and pre departure during boarding but with minimum staffing it's not.
The only melodramatic thing mentioned in EMBFA's post is that IDs look tacky and like you are ready to leave.
If you do not know why displaying ID onboard could lead to major safety/security issues, then you are obviously not an employee/crew.
And its best not to discuss such things on a public forum with non-employees.
Trust us that the main focus of our jobs post 9-11 is saftey and security, and most of us take that seriously.
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