US-East Observation Rides In Full Force

[Travelpro72]

Well pretty soon the lazy flight attendants that only throw the bottle to passengers will have no choice to do a pre-departure service soon. The small bottles are going away. The dining and cabin people on my flight said that they are going with ONE type of water and thats the big bottles. If they want more water in f/c then they will have a continuous pour. I know it sounds cheap but that is what what they said. It is kind of rediculous what companies charge for natures natural resource. Water is as expensive as liquor. I was in the LAS airport and they wanted $2.75 for a bottle of Desani water. Not unless I was stuck out in the middle of a dessert on foot half dead. As for the ID....it is NOT to be worn on the a/c and the A321 does not get a predeparture service even if the load is "light". While it makes for a nice f/a and to the passenger you seem like your really going "above and beyond", I hope the passenger gives you the cash out of their wallet for your fine if an FAA inspector came down and you were out in the cabin doing drinks with an unmanned door. I always do a pre-departure but if we are departing behind schedule, pre departure is to be skipped in order to focus on getting the a/c off the gate as quick as possible. On time is more important to a passenger making a connection than a drink before take off. IF we ONLY had an extra f/a.....like that will happen..LOL 🙄

 

[Elevation]

The only melodramatic thing mentioned in EMBFA's post is that IDs look tacky and like you are ready to leave.
If you do not know why displaying ID onboard could lead to major safety/security issues, then you are obviously not an employee/crew.
And its best not to discuss such things on a public forum with non-employees.
Trust us that the main focus of our jobs post 9-11 is saftey and security, and most of us take that seriously.

So if it's SO MAJOR of a security issue why don't all airlines/FA's do it. A MAJOR issue has to do with the clear and present safety of passengers, crew and a/c. Stop being so melodramatic :down: and put in the right context of importance.

 

[azjetdude]

Yes, FAs need to be "near" doors, however that does not mean that they have to be standing there at all times. Serving a pre-departure beverage, even to row 8 is perfectly fine and safe.

The FA still has the ability to be aware of their surroundings while performing pre-departure.

The old excuse of 'I have to be near my exits" is an excuse to be lazy and try to blame it on safety.

 

[EMBFA]

So if it's SO MAJOR of a security issue why don't all airlines/FA's do it. A MAJOR issue has to do with the clear and present safety of passengers, crew and a/c. Stop being so melodramatic :down: and put in the right context of importance.

Um, all airlines do require F/As to do it. As you see from this thread, some F/As just don't, they do what they please... again looking at this no one seems to be satisfied when policies are followed but then we get in ytrouble for going above and beyond or punish the others who do follow the unpopular rules.

And dont you dare tell me what is and is not a major security issue. You are obviously not a crewmember, not a woman, nor do you have much common sense... in fact all you do is come on here and complain about East F/As when my guess is you probably dont fly much anyway since you dont seem to know much about it.

Melodramatic is whining about not getting a cup coke to sip for two seconds before takeoff. "Its doable" ok because you've done it. Why dont you get on a plane, disregard the policies your suppose to follow, and plaster your name on your forehead, try to make and serve 26 drinks while fighting the ttraffic of a hundred people, all while trying to accomplish your other, much more important duties- alone. If you havent seen it on the A321 then there you go... consistency. Feel free to write the company we would love to return to the days of six F/As on a 321 and a workforce of 10,000 instead of four thousand. :down: to you too. Go hire a hooker, theyll be younger and theyll make up a name just for you.

 

[hula-flyguy]

Funny how a person trying to create drama accuses another of being melodramatic.

Until you are familiar with FAR's and Policy and Procdures, you would be well served to withold your judgement of others.


Ignorance is not an excuse.

 

[EMBFA]

Funny how a person trying to create drama accuses another of being melodramatic.

Until you are familiar with FAR's and Policy and Procdures, you would be well served to withold your judgement of others.
Ignorance is not an excuse.

thank you!

 

[Travelpro72]

Being at your door for boarding is considered the same as being at your j/s during aircraft movement. You are to be at your door. Especially at your door if it's open. The new rule of checking id of ANY passenger that gets off and wants to get back on is effect. On a/c where there are two boarding up front this is not an issue. It is the A321 that we are talking about here. So NO you can't and shouldnt be at row 8 on the A321 when you are the A and boarding at the 1L door. If your as row 8 and another 10 passengers are arriving at the door of the a/c who is there? Sometimes there are no front end crew in the cockpit. NO you stay at the door.

 

[700UW]

I have seen Flight Attendants get written up for stepping off the plane to answer the jetway phone, the inflight supervisors were doing this in CLT before.

 

[Twicebaked]

Yes, FAs need to be "near" doors, however that does not mean that they have to be standing there at all times. Serving a pre-departure beverage, even to row 8 is perfectly fine and safe.

No, it is not! Do you work for the FAA? Row 8 is not near your door...that would be by the 2L door on the A321 or close to the window exits on others.

Besides which, who is greeting the passengers if you are in the middle of the first class cabin?

 

[Dog Wonder]

Sorry Westies, your boys are taking a beating on we are damned good at working planes we never worked.

 

[Elevation]

Um, all airlines do require F/As to do it. As you see from this thread, some F/As just don't, they do what they please... again looking at this no one seems to be satisfied when policies are followed but then we get in ytrouble for going above and beyond or punish the others who do follow the unpopular rules.

And dont you dare tell me what is and is not a major security issue. You are obviously not a crewmember, not a woman, nor do you have much common sense... in fact all you do is come on here and complain about East F/As when my guess is you probably dont fly much anyway since you dont seem to know much about it.

I dare tell you 😀 that your definition of MAJOR is a little out of kilter. Arming doors, loose baggage, proper exit row pax, prohibitied items and unstable pax etc. ect. are examples of MAJOR security concerns from an FA. Not everything you do is a MAJOR item(even though you personally think so), flippin your ID over is much farther down the list In the end, it's just semantics, so cool your honey buns and get some perspective.

 

[Singleflyer]

Thank you EMBFA for the clarification on the bottle water.

I alsways ask for a bottle of water with a cup of ice, and that is what I receive, mostly with a smile. I saw the water bottles in first and assumed it was SOP.

after 9/11 the stoped the small bottles in first, but soon they returned since they relized it really didn't save them money because FAs didn't like giving me constant refills so they gave me the whole big bottle. This was don't with many other FF who got accustomed to the small bottles.

 

[Elevation]

Sorry Westies, your boys are taking a beating on we are damned good at working planes we never worked.

My Phili translator not working say again.. 😀 (whatchu takn bout willis)

 

[USCREW]

Yes, FAs need to be "near" doors, however that does not mean that they have to be standing there at all times. Serving a pre-departure beverage, even to row 8 is perfectly fine and safe.

The FA still has the ability to be aware of their surroundings while performing pre-departure.

The old excuse of 'I have to be near my exits" is an excuse to be lazy and try to blame it on safety.

Do you work for a third world airline or a US carrier that is regulated by the FAA? While one F/A is taking orders or filling them, there has to be another who is close to the doors. This is not "lazy" and this is not an excuse. It is boarding procedure. You can not watch your exit at row 8 unless you are on a super small private jet with only 8 rows.

 

[EMBFA]

I dare tell you 😀 that your definition of MAJOR is a little out of kilter. Arming doors, loose baggage, proper exit row pax, prohibitied items and unstable pax etc. ect. are examples of MAJOR security concerns from an FA. Not everything you do is a MAJOR item(even though you personally think so), flippin your ID over is much farther down the list In the end, it's just semantics, so cool your honey buns and get some perspective.

hey #### are you a woman? didnt think so/ it is a major difference in hostage/hijacking situations whether or not they know your name not to mention the terrifying and sometimes deadly things that have happened to f/as stalked by passengers. im not getting killed by some creep who has a fetish for wings and boxy dresses or someone who wasnt hugged enough as a child and goes crazy if a crewmember doesnt diaper thier ass the whole flight. not that i have to explain anything to you, take your semantics and #### off. call me honey buns again and you'll get a bottle of water to the face, u speak philly enough to understand that?