US-East Observation Rides In Full Force

[SKY HIGH]

I cannot wait for you easties to do a red-eye transcon that started with three turns, have a nine hour layover to do another transcon and then have a 3 hour sit in LAS and then do yet another red-eye transcon. And, guess what, I do pre-departure on EVERY leg.

You easties are going to be shocked when you actually have to work.

sky high states: Ooooo, gawd, another Matthew Gardner ATTITUDE! Work? DID YOU SAY?.........You're AIRLINE wasnt even it existance when alot of those "easties" worked Connies, 8 legs on the DC-9 or BAC 1-11. 3 legs from NYC to ORD. HOT MEALS from PIT to ORD in coach. Or predeparture DRINKS IN "COACH". (wine or OJ).
Shocked?....yeah, at your ignorance. :down:

 

[N965VJ]

<SNIP>You're AIRLINE wasnt even it existance when alot of those "easties" worked Connies, 8 legs on the DC-9 or BAC 1-11.

I wonder how many “westâ€￾ folks came from PanAm, Eastern, TW, etc.

 

[2clippedwings]

THEY who? FAA does not say that.

STOWAGE OF GALLEY SERVICE ITEMS

(Formerly, Air Carrier Operations Bulletin No. 1-76-6.
Sections 121.311 and 121.589 of the FAR).
From the FAA Web Site...
Section 121.577 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) prohibits a certificate holder from movement on the surface, taking off, or landing an airplane when any food, beverage, or tableware, furnished by the certificate holder, is located at any passenger seat. In an emergency situation requiring evacuation, litter from food service of any kind (including coffee and rolls) can be hazardous due to poor footing. Accordingly, FAR Section 121.577 prohibits serving of any food or beverage, regardless of type of containers used, during movement of the surface, takeoff, and landing. In addition, any food item or container which the passenger carries on board the aircraft would be considered carry-on baggage and must be properly stowed in accordance with FAR Section 121.589 for movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing.

 

[USCREW]

STOWAGE OF GALLEY SERVICE ITEMS

(Formerly, Air Carrier Operations Bulletin No. 1-76-6.
Sections 121.311 and 121.589 of the FAR).
From the FAA Web Site...
Section 121.577 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FAR) prohibits a certificate holder from movement on the surface, taking off, or landing an airplane when any food, beverage, or tableware, furnished by the certificate holder, is located at any passenger seat. In an emergency situation requiring evacuation, litter from food service of any kind (including coffee and rolls) can be hazardous due to poor footing. Accordingly, FAR Section 121.577 prohibits serving of any food or beverage, regardless of type of containers used, during movement of the surface, takeoff, and landing. In addition, any food item or container which the passenger carries on board the aircraft would be considered carry-on baggage and must be properly stowed in accordance with FAR Section 121.589 for movement on the surface, takeoff, and landing.

I've never seen anyone enforce this...at the extreme, excess carry-ons that can not be stowed would have to be checked. PASS THE BURGER AND FRIES SIR!

 

[SKY HIGH]

I wonder how many “westâ€￾ folks came from PanAm, Eastern, TW, etc.

Sky high states: FEW!!!!!
Those airlines were still operating.

 

[john john]

Work to rule can be a big problem which some have suggested.

 

[USCREW]

JMM,
you might be suprised when your sitting reserve. Then you can dream about srving on the 321.

JMM IS sitting reserve...He's a brand-new hire. And yes JMM, we have all worked those incredibly hard trips...in the 80's. Your trips will get better and welcome aboard!

 

[azjetdude]

747 boards middle door.
DC10/8 boards middle door.
A321 boards forward door....26 pax..7 rows..they will have H20 at seat or nothing...thats it..'nough said.

May I suggest you become educated on the layout of this ac before you open your mouth. The ac you mentioned make it possible to have a predeparture party but all 169 pax go thru fc on the a321.

If management is so concerned, get their sorry asses out here during a boarding and let THEM board. They wouldn't last one leg.

Actually, because you are making assumptions, you too are wrong.

In ORD we boarded the DC10 through 1L at many gates, just becasue of the gate set up.

I flew 3 series of the DC8, a fun plane to work, but again we boarded at 1L.

Maybe instead of calling someone a lier, you can ask clarifying questions instead?

 

[USCREW]

Actually, because you are making assumptions, you too are wrong.

In ORD we boarded the DC10 through 1L at many gates, just becasue of the gate set up.

I flew 3 series of the DC8, a fun plane to work, but again we boarded at 1L.

Maybe instead of calling someone a lier, you can ask clarifying questions instead?

AZ,

Please clarify if you were boarding alone and if you were responsible for both forward doors as well as the service upfront on the ground.

Thank-you.

 

[LCC_#1]

Actually, because you are making assumptions, you too are wrong.

In ORD we boarded the DC10 through 1L at many gates, just becasue of the gate set up.

I flew 3 series of the DC8, a fun plane to work, but again we boarded at 1L.

Maybe instead of calling someone a lier, you can ask clarifying questions instead?

Sorry. Why did you guys board thru the 1L? Those ac are pretty old and most are staffed in a way that there is at least 1 over the min. staffing. I just think it would be tacky for the person greeting the ac to leace their post and deliver drinks leaving nobody to say hi or answer questions.

BTW, I know most DC10's have a galley after first class. How about the DC8? In the DC10's case, the person at that position could actually do the predeparture.

Man, those DC8 stretches were over the top. A UAL f/a once told me it had for classes of service..First, Biz, Coach, and NO class...in the very back.

 

[N965VJ]

Connies, 8 legs on the DC-9 or BAC 1-11.

The 9 and the BAC were the place to be if you didn't like to do meals. Plenty of people, myself included, preferred 8 legs of drinks to going to the west coast. That seemed like less work.

Is there anyone still around from EA that flew Connies? That's really cool.

Sky high states: FEW!!!!!
Those airlines were still operating.

There were several EA and PA people in my US new hire class, even though both airlines were still several years away from ceasing operation.

 

[azjetdude]

This really is getting quite ridiculous. All this over serving 26 peoples a pre-departure drink.

Is it hard? Yeah, Is it impossible? no-does it create a security risk, in my eyes, only if you like drama. Just my little point of view. Like it or not, that is the way I see it.

Sorry, I am not going to argue if my experience at 7 airlines in 26 years isn't enough for you to justify my opinion. The only point I was originally trying to make is that being a FA for US for 20 plus some years isn't the only experience that allows someone to have an opinion.

If you don't think my experience is enough to make a judgment call about performing a pre-departure beverage service, that it appears in your eyes is the end all be all in security and the "extreme difficulty" of the FA position. You have that right.

I'm movin' on!

 

[USCREW]

This really is getting quite ridiculous. All this over serving 26 peoples a pre-departure drink.

Is it hard? Yeah, Is it impossible? no-does it create a security risk, in my eyes, only if you like drama. Just my little point of view. Like it or not, that is the way I see it.

Sorry, I am not going to argue if my experience at 7 airlines in 26 years isn't enough for you to justify my opinion. The only point I was originally trying to make is that being a FA for US for 20 plus some years isn't the only experience that allows someone to have an opinion.

If you don't think my experience is enough to make a judgment call about performing a pre-departure beverage service, that it appears in your eyes is the end all be all in security and the "extreme difficulty" of the FA position. You have that right.

I'm movin' on!

I value your opinion, experience, and judgement. I was just asking you a question since you believe that it would be "lazy"...etc...we are in this together AZ.

 

[US1YFARE]

This really is getting quite ridiculous. All this over serving 26 peoples a pre-departure drink.

Actually, one of my posts in the other thread was about a few FA's on a 321 who decided to talk about their husbands running around on them instead of serving drinks while waiting at the gate.