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USAIR Chairmans Preferred Looking to move to new airline

WOW! That's a big 'ol cup of bitter coming from many in the USAirways crowd.
When I see a UAL FF leave for another airline, I'm sorry to see them go, but I don't throw a temper tantrum.
I'm guessing that most of the 'children' are crew. As ex-crew, I can tell from experience that you view an airline much differently as a FF. It pays to be loyal to an airline, but you want to make sure that you're flying with an airline that makes you happy. It sounds like the OP went for USAirways because of the PHL hub being close to him. I'd be willing to bet that he transitions to ABE and flies to either IAD or ORD. From IAD & ORD, he can go just about anywhere.

FF-US-FLIER, I hope that you made the switch; I don't think that you'll regret it.
I don't work for any airline, but my question was this...if his boss told him to be in Kansas City Tuesday, and come home Friday, A nonstop from Philly costs $458....a connection on United thru IAD costs $609. Would his company say "hunky dory...you rack up those miles"...or would they tell him he'll go on the cheapest flight? Then the question becomes...how late will they let him get there on Tuesday? He can be in MCI as early as 9:45 out of Philly by catching a 7:45 flight out of PHL. He can be there by 10:15 out of ABE...but he's got to catch a 6:15 flight. Otherwise, he won't be touching down in MCI until 2:25....is he willing to get up a lot earlier to rack up the miles...especially considering both legs are on RJ's with no comfy first class cabin to upgrade to. So how long would he put up with that because of a FF program?

Living in or near a hub city can spoil a FF...I'd suggest he give flying UAL or American or Continental or whoever else he'd want to get a mileage comp from and see what impact the convenience of a hub airport gives him before jumping ship.
 
I agree with KCFlyer. Unless the OP has had such consistently horrible service from U that s/he has sworn to avoid U out of principle, I believe life is easier by sticking with the carrier that provides you with the most nonstops to the places you want to go.

And an all-ABE strategy on UA will condemn you to a life of IAD/ORD connections and unreliable (i.e., first-to-cancel) RJs. Even assuming PHL is a worse hub, if you arrive PHL and the weather (or something) is causing havoc, you are home. If you arrive in ORD/IAD and there are major operational problems, you'll be sleeping at the airport.
 
I don't work for any airline, but my question was this...if his boss told him to be in Kansas City Tuesday, and come home Friday, A nonstop from Philly costs $458....a connection on United thru IAD costs $609. Would his company say "hunky dory...you rack up those miles"...or would they tell him he'll go on the cheapest flight? Then the question becomes...how late will they let him get there on Tuesday? He can be in MCI as early as 9:45 out of Philly by catching a 7:45 flight out of PHL. He can be there by 10:15 out of ABE...but he's got to catch a 6:15 flight. Otherwise, he won't be touching down in MCI until 2:25....is he willing to get up a lot earlier to rack up the miles...especially considering both legs are on RJ's with no comfy first class cabin to upgrade to. So how long would he put up with that because of a FF program?

KCFlyer, my post wasn't aimed at you; it was aimed at those that made snide remarks.
As far as travel costs, I wouldn't make a blanket statement that all fares are going to be more expensive on United than what USAirways charges. Some will be more, some will be less. His employer is already somewhat price insensitive, because it sounds like FF-US-FLIER has done all of his flying on USAirways. And some employers actually strive to keep their employees happy. There are more than a couple of employers that allow their employees to choose which airline that they fly on.
On the connecting vs direct flights, since we don't know where FF-US-FLIER travels to, everything is speculation. He may be traveling to Europe, Asia, Australia, or South America. He obviously wants to remain in the Star Alliance for some reason; I'm guessing that it's due to the worldwide network.
For right now, he would be taking an RJ to Chicago. But that route may change to 70 seater RJs which do have a first class and economy plus seating. However, the ABE-IAD route still has a prop aircraft on it; the Saab 340 with 30 passenger seats. Fortunately, all of the 'A' seats are both window and aisle. 😀
You pointed out the additional travel time of going through ABE vs PHL. Depending on where the OP flies to, it may be faster to fly on United; I'm not willing to assume that it's going to take longer. But going out of a smaller airport has a lot of advantages over a large airport. I'd be willing to bet that checkin and security lines are much shorter at ABE than PHL, saving a lot of time. And parking is probably cheaper, saving his employer a few dollars (not that it's a major issue); I'd be willing to bet that parking is much closer to the terminal at ABE. And ABE is small enough that the agents will quickly recognize the OP by face & name ... FF-US-FLIER, for that reason, I'd recommend making a good first impression. Those people will do a LOT to take care of you if they like you. I doubt that the agents in PHL can give him the same level of service that he will receive out of ABE, should he decide to go that route.
I don't think that FF miles are the most important thing to FF-US-FLIER, so he's likely not going to care if he gets a few extra miles on United or USAirways. He logged 127K actual miles last year; once you're past 100K, all of the additional miles are merely more time away from home. With the 100% bonus for FFs, he's looking at 250K FF miles to burn every year. BTW, FF-US-FLIER, United gives a lifetime PremierExec status once you fly a million miles. Here's a link, read the last sentence: http://www.united.com/page/article/0,6722,51404,00.html

I think that FF-US-FLIER's been around the block for long enough to know what the positives and negatives are for him to switch FF programs. He's made a decision to give United a try; if he doesn't like it, he can always go back to USAirways.

I agree with KCFlyer. Unless the OP has had such consistently horrible service from U that s/he has sworn to avoid U out of principle, I believe life is easier by sticking with the carrier that provides you with the most nonstops to the places you want to go.

And an all-ABE strategy on UA will condemn you to a life of IAD/ORD connections and unreliable (i.e., first-to-cancel) RJs. Even assuming PHL is a worse hub, if you arrive PHL and the weather (or something) is causing havoc, you are home. If you arrive in ORD/IAD and there are major operational problems, you'll be sleeping at the airport.

Bear96, you are assuming that the OP's flights are all nonstops out of PHL. The OP can post where he normally flies to, but since he wants to remain in the Star Alliance and had 127K BIS (butt in seat) miles last year, I don't think that he's strictly domestic.

I wouldn't say that RJs are the first to cancel; there is a priority ranking of flights going in and out of the hubs in adverse weather. Plus, if the weather's bad in PHL, he has no choice on USAirways. If the weather's bad in ORD, he can go through IAD and vice versa.

As for sleeping in the airport, I don't think that it will happen to him. With his status, he is the first to receive a local hotel room. Courtesy United. Just an additional perk of being a high revenue FF.
 
KCFlyer, my post wasn't aimed at you; it was aimed at those that made snide remarks.
As far as travel costs, I wouldn't make a blanket statement that all fares are going to be more expensive on United than what USAirways charges. Some will be more, some will be less. His employer is already somewhat price insensitive, because it sounds like FF-US-FLIER has done all of his flying on USAirways. And some employers actually strive to keep their employees happy. There are more than a couple of employers that allow their employees to choose which airline that they fly on.
I'll agree to that, within reason. If it means the employee spends 2 to 4 more hours travelling, will they still put his happiness over his productivity? Or...if weather in IAD or ORD means that 2 to o4 hour difference translates into a 7 or 8 hour difference....does employee happiness still matter?
You pointed out the additional travel time of going through ABE vs PHL. Depending on where the OP flies to, it may be faster to fly on United; I'm not willing to assume that it's going to take longer. But going out of a smaller airport has a lot of advantages over a large airport. I'd be willing to bet that checkin and security lines are much shorter at ABE than PHL, saving a lot of time. And parking is probably cheaper, saving his employer a few dollars (not that it's a major issue); I'd be willing to bet that parking is much closer to the terminal at ABE. And ABE is small enough that the agents will quickly recognize the OP by face & name ...
While security lines may be shorter at ABE...and ABE is the same distance as PHL...he's got to catch a 6:15 a.m flight in order to get to MCI a half hour later than the 7:45 nonstop from PHL...that calls for some
personal sacrifice on the part of the traveller....are they willing to sacrifice?
I think that FF-US-FLIER's been around the block for long enough to know what the positives and negatives are for him to switch FF programs. He's made a decision to give United a try; if he doesn't like it, he can always go back to USAirways.
Great...is UAL asking him to put any "skin in the game"...after all, he doesn't want to start over from the bottom...What guarantee does UAL have that he won't fly them all the time...and instead become a preferred passenger in two different programs...and utilize US more because, as he said in his original post "The 120 segments I flew last year with US, were no stops from PHL."...As one who used to fly every week for a living, the lure of a nonstop flight is MIGHTY big...Is UAL willing to treat him like royalty from day one...even though day 2 might not be for 6 more weeks (because US was more convenient)...will he still deserve the star treatment as an "occasionally frequent flyer"?
As for sleeping in the airport, I don't think that it will happen to him. With his status, he is the first to receive a local hotel room. Courtesy United. Just an additional perk of being a high revenue FF.
I didn't read where he was a high revenue FF...just a disgruntled FF. There IS a difference. And again...how often will he need to fly UAL to avail himself of these perks if he is given the status right from his first flight on a United aircraft? Heck...he was even posting on the JETBLUE board...what's their preffered FF program like?

At one point in my life, I was on a plane at least twice a week, based out of Dallas. While my happiness was important to my employer, if AA had a more convenient routing, I was on AA. Because if AA offered a nonstop to SLC, but UAL had to stop in Denver - every minute I was wandering the terminal in Denver was money my employer was tossing out the window. If the destination was Chicago or Denver, and UAL had the better timed flights - FF program be damned, my butt was in a UAL seat.

None of this is a slam at United...just a jab at the prima donna FF passenger who doesn't feel his butt has been kissed well enough at the airline that gets most of his business.
 
and utilize US more because, as he said in his original post "The 120 segments I flew last year with US, were no stops from PHL."


Ah, I missed that. It looks like his travel patterns are an average of 1000 mile flights, all nonstop out of PHL. I've logged >60K miles in the last 5 months and am now at the point where I prefer nonstops. I will choose United when possible, but will fly others as necessary.
 
FF-US-Flyer:

Simply call 1-800-421-4655, Mileage Plus Service Center, and tell them who you are and they will match your status right away. You will fly with your status and must earn the numbers with mileage plus to maintain the status they give you for the following year. Check out www.united.com for everything Mileage Plus offers you. Also, I recommend you get the Mileage Plus Visa card also. I hope this is helpful to you.

Since IAD is beefing up its IAD hub due to international expansion, United is hiring a lot more CS agents at IAD to assist you. Since the company is closing down the large IAD Reservations Center, they are getting already trained international agents into Customer Service. So any problems with IAD hub should smooth out.
 
I am a USAir CP, and I am about fed up with the airline and the new merger.

My travel with US has been over 120 segments per year leaving out of PHL. I am looking to move airlines. I would like to stay in the Star Alliance, but would like to start using United to fly me for my business.

I am at the point right now where I am willing to do this. The 120 segments I flew last year with US, were no stops from PHL. If I move over to United, I would more then double that since PHL is not a United hub and would have to layover in ORD or IAD.

Can someone give me some information if United even gives comps to their prefered status from other airlines, and if so, how do I go about requesting it? I had flown 127K atcual miles last year without prefered bonuses, and are looking to do the same if not more this year. I would love to give United my money, but I dont want to start at the bottom (AGAIN)

Thanks in advance.

DON'T Let The Door Hit You In The ARSE!! Bah..Bah !!
:bleh:
 
I am a USAir CP, and I am about fed up with the airline and the new merger.

My travel with US has been over 120 segments per year leaving out of PHL. I am looking to move airlines. I would like to stay in the Star Alliance, but would like to start using United to fly me for my business.

I am at the point right now where I am willing to do this. The 120 segments I flew last year with US, were no stops from PHL. If I move over to United, I would more then double that since PHL is not a United hub and would have to layover in ORD or IAD.

Can someone give me some information if United even gives comps to their prefered status from other airlines, and if so, how do I go about requesting it? I had flown 127K atcual miles last year without prefered bonuses, and are looking to do the same if not more this year. I would love to give United my money, but I dont want to start at the bottom (AGAIN)

Thanks in advance.

Call the Mileage Plus Service Center at 1-800-421-4655 and ask for a Status Match. They will be happy to do that for you and at the same time answer all your questions. You can also explore more on United.com un the Mileage Plus heading. You will be eligible for all the beeps and whistles. You will, of course, be given a year to maintain you status.
 
IAD (At it's worst--when G term was still alive and "well") has PHL beat hands down.
Absolutely, and I'd still say the same thing about ORD. Lot's of ground holds for traffic control to ORD, but I haven't missed a connection yet. The only complaint is poor transit between terminals and lots of walking, but that's also an issue with many hubs.
 
WOW! That's a big 'ol cup of bitter coming from many in the USAirways crowd.
When I see a UAL FF leave for another airline, I'm sorry to see them go, but I don't throw a temper tantrum.
Maybe the USAirways crowd is worried about the skidmarks their FF's are making to other airlines eventually hurting jobs. It's a hard decision to make, especially when there are so many awesome US employees that have kept us so long, but the airline's attitude to FF (many displayed on these boards) is starting to wear thin on it's best customers.

The one good thing for me that came from the downsizing of PIT is the fact that it introduced me to UA. I made it policy to never connect through that mess in PHL. Since most of my destinations now require connections, I opt for UA and ORD most of the time, and occasionally IAD. Even on the worst days, they are still better than PHL, and that's a no brainer....UA gets my business.

It's all a matter of personal preference as to what works for the customer and what level of tolerance we will put up with in attitude and service. Nobody should chastise a customer for opting to go to another airline....it's our choice and our money. The OP is researching options, as are many FF's. If some have a problem with that, they need to get a life. We all have choices in this world.
 
B*A*L*O*N*E*Y

I've been thru both on revenue (read: real world) conditions in the last few years, oh, probably 100 times each. You?

PHL sucks the sweat from a dead man's back. T*H*E*S*E won't change it.
 
I am a USAir CP, and I am about fed up with the airline and the new merger.

My travel with US has been over 120 segments per year leaving out of PHL. I am looking to move airlines. I would like to stay in the Star Alliance, but would like to start using United to fly me for my business.

I am at the point right now where I am willing to do this. The 120 segments I flew last year with US, were no stops from PHL. If I move over to United, I would more then double that since PHL is not a United hub and would have to layover in ORD or IAD.

Can someone give me some information if United even gives comps to their prefered status from other airlines, and if so, how do I go about requesting it? I had flown 127K atcual miles last year without prefered bonuses, and are looking to do the same if not more this year. I would love to give United my money, but I dont want to start at the bottom (AGAIN)

Thanks in advance.

You know we are tied of CP's like yourself. You are what we call the entitled. You feel that you should get everything just because you are CP. WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE. The airline industry is changing and it isn't going to get any better. I know you want to pay the cheapiest fare you can and still expect to keep your status. You are probably one of the Roaches who complained when the Dividened Miles Program was changing a few years back. You should tell us what you do for business. I am sure we could all complain about your company just as you do with USAirways. Do you know that the FF Programs are one of the costliest programs in an airline. That program costs more money than paying all of the employees salaries. You should stop your bitching and get over it. Howeer I would love to know what company you work for! I am sure it is like Verizon, Comcast, BBS or some other company that screws people over as you feel you have been screwed! :up:
 
Do you know that the FF Programs are one of the costliest programs in an airline. That program costs more money than paying all of the employees salaries. You should stop your bitching and get over it.

This is 100 percent inaccurate. The FF programs are profit centers for the airlines, not cost centers. Get your facts straight before you throw stones.
 
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