Usairways Mechanics To The Rescue

[JS]

And your own post was devoid of rhetoric? The ultimate truth? ( Note: one does not have to like an argument to validate it )

A common argumental tactic used by many, especially in the longer threads ( here included ) is to simply ignore rebuttals and claim "you ( still ) didn't answer my question..." or somesuch remark, despite getting answers/rebuttals. Seems straight out of 'How to win an argument and always be right' book. While a certain captain is the most infamous user of this tactic, he certainly isn't the only one.

[post="290499"][/post]​

What rhetoric? Here, I will re-post it again for your convenience, with the most important words in bold:


Translation: AMFA is angry that the mechanics now at NW, doing exactly the same job AMFA workers were doing yesterday, aren't paying AMFA dues. Oh well, too bad for the AMFA.

Calling people childish names like "scab" doesn't change economics. There is a job to do (maintaining aircraft) and plenty of people willing to do it who were laid off from other major airlines.

 

[eolesen]

This person was an A & P with United for years, moved from SFO MOC doing heavy checks on the widebodies to JFK then finally to BOS where the layoff finally got to this person, with over 13 years experience.

My "friend" is alongside about 25 other former United mechanics, mostly from SFO and ORD maintenance.

So I don't think these guys are as 'inexperienced' as the union wants the public to think, especially since the UAL mechanics have worked on 747s, DC-10s, 757s, and the Airbii.. they just don't know the baby 9s.

[post="289928"][/post]​

The irony of that statement is that the laid off UAL mechanics were AMFA members knowingly chosing to be replacements for other AMFA members...

 

[SpinDoc]

Translation: AMFA is angry that the mechanics now at NW, doing exactly the same job AMFA workers were doing yesterday, aren't paying AMFA dues. Oh well, too bad for the AMFA.

Calling people childish names like "scab" doesn't change economics. There is a job to do (maintaining aircraft) and plenty of people willing to do it who were laid off from other major airlines.

[post="290270"][/post]​

Supply and demand. Pure and simple.
NW needs mechanics, and the supply
of available mechanics is high and fits
right into their plan. The goobers at
AMFA underestimated the market for
unemployed replacement mechanics.

Just another reason why paying dues to
a union who determines your own
self-worth in the marketplace is useless.

It's amazing how market forces are
winning against the unions. UAL, US,
and now NW. It appears there is hope
for the legacy carriers after all, as
precedents are being set on a daily
basis.

 

[High Iron]

What rhetoric? Here, I will re-post it again for your convenience, with the most important words in bold:
Translation: AMFA is angry that the mechanics now at NW, doing exactly the same job AMFA workers were doing yesterday, aren't paying AMFA dues. Oh well, too bad for the AMFA.

Calling people childish names like "scab" doesn't change economics. There is a job to do (maintaining aircraft) and plenty of people willing to do it who were laid off from other major airlines.

[post="290574"][/post]​

"AMFA is angry that the mechanics now at NW, doing exactly the same job AMFA workers were doing yesterday, aren't paying AMFA dues"

...or are they doing the same jobs? The recent rash of NWA delays/cancellations for mtx reasons would seem to suggest otherwise. Harp on the dues angle ( as well you may ), but the essential truth still boils down to ( an attempted ) replacement of an experienced workforce with those who were heretofore unemployable by a major...barring, of course, those who jumped the fence into management ranks in anticipation of said strike. ( no need to comment further )

"Calling people childish names like "scab" doesn't change economics. There is a job to do (maintaining aircraft) and plenty of people willing to do it who were laid off from other major airlines"

Ah yes chips, question is; Can they? Seems not. Pie charts and "metrics" won't do it here. These days of the the uber ( sorry, can't do umlats ) capitalista model has cut the fat ( and the meat ) to the bone. For non-scab ( union and non-union ) carriers to merely maintain staus quo during perfect ops is a feat; Introducing difficulties just presses the sytem harder...harder yet when the difficulties are self-induced. Even on a one-for-one basis ( which is far from the present scenario ) the NWA plan has "loser" written all over it. This is economics. If scabs were so viable, why now, and not then? Yeah sure: "A body is a body". Typical MBA BS.

 

[High Iron]

SD:

"It's amazing how market forces are
winning against the unions. UAL, US,
and now NW. It appears there is hope
for the legacy carriers after all, as
precedents are being set on a daily
basis

Hope???? YGBFSM!!! They're all loser carriers as far as financial success goes. Sorry bub, but your "deep concession = hope" is a total fallacy....demonstrably. Try another angle.

 

[diogenes]

Supply and demand. Pure and simple.
NW needs mechanics, and the supply
of available mechanics is high and fits
right into their plan. The goobers at
AMFA underestimated the market for
unemployed replacement mechanics.

Just another reason why paying dues to
a union who determines your own
self-worth in the marketplace is useless.

It's amazing how market forces are
winning against the unions. UAL, US,
and now NW. It appears there is hope
for the legacy carriers after all, as
precedents are being set on a daily
basis.

[post="290662"][/post]​

Reconcile, please.




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