What is going on with the caribbean and latin america flights ?

[TPAA&P]

Is US cutting these flights or what ?? maybe they are now seasonal or they are not daily anymore, who knows....
But it is a shame, because I was trying to look up some flights to these destinations (GUA, MEX, SDQ, BZE, CZM, STT) on the ETC and It didn't show anything.....
What US is trying to do with this so important international routes ?? anybody has an idea ?? Is US really shrinking or what the hell ..... :angry:

 

[robbedagain]

i know that the MEX flight goes from MEX to CLT to ABE on an daily basis I thought the rest were daily as well

 

[Travelpro72]

Don't depend on the ETC for ANYTHING. I tried to log on a few times and said I had an unknown employee number and then no flights listed between my city pair for that day until I tried a second time.

 

[Harry Callahan]

As far as I know it is a seasonal thing.

 

[flyingcat]

It is seasonal. Just before Christmas some go back to daily. Plus around christmas some flights have capacity changes (757 to MEX).

 

[barbeetantrums]

Don't depend on the ETC for ANYTHING. I tried to log on a few times and said I had an unknown employee number and then no flights listed between my city pair for that day until I tried a second time.

ETC is definitely a broken unit. Dare to complain to the appropriate department and they will just say that you don't know what you are doing.

 

[FlyUs]

On a side note, the 4th non stop flight from PHX-BOS that started this month on US metal is discontinued in November. The return red-eye flight on US metal will remain but will be with HP metal. Still, only 3 round trips daily. From what I can tell, this 4th flight is always full. Maybe they need the a/c elsewhere.

 

[MarkMyWords]

Sept and Oct we usually see a seasonal reduction in service for the Caribbean. It is not unusual to discontinue/reduce service in certain markets and redeploy the assets to markets like BOS-PHX for a couple months. Why run a CLT-BZE flight with a very low load factor (or extremely discounted fares) when you can run the same airplane in another market with better revenues? As demand increases in the CLT-BZE market, then the asset is brought back to that market due to the revenue it generates.

For example, CLT-BZE with an 80% load factor generates a 5,000 profit per day. BOS-PHX with an 80% load facotr generates a 2,000 profit per day. In Sept and Oct the demand for CLT-BZE drops to a load factor of 30% unless you discount fares to a point of not making a profit. There is still a strong demand for BOS-PHX, so we add a 4th BOS-PHX flight, redeploying the asset to that market to avoid a loss. As the demand for CLT-BZE increases, we return the asset to the CLT-BZE market since it generates higher revenues.

Just an example and my interpretation of how things work.

 

[Jonnyd]

On a side note, the 4th non stop flight from PHX-BOS that started this month on US metal is discontinued in November. The return red-eye flight on US metal will remain but will be with HP metal. Still, only 3 round trips daily. From what I can tell, this 4th flight is always full. Maybe they need the a/c elsewhere.

It's full this Friday night. It's better to just hop on Jetblue's red-eye PHX-BOS because it always has seats open and just pay the 25 bucks from a non-rev perspective.

 

[FlyUs]

Sept and Oct we usually see a seasonal reduction in service for the Caribbean. It is not unusual to discontinue/reduce service in certain markets and redeploy the assets to markets like BOS-PHX for a couple months. Why run a CLT-BZE flight with a very low load factor (or extremely discounted fares) when you can run the same airplane in another market with better revenues? As demand increases in the CLT-BZE market, then the asset is brought back to that market due to the revenue it generates.

For example, CLT-BZE with an 80% load factor generates a 5,000 profit per day. BOS-PHX with an 80% load facotr generates a 2,000 profit per day. In Sept and Oct the demand for CLT-BZE drops to a load factor of 30% unless you discount fares to a point of not making a profit. There is still a strong demand for BOS-PHX, so we add a 4th BOS-PHX flight, redeploying the asset to that market to avoid a loss. As the demand for CLT-BZE increases, we return the asset to the CLT-BZE market since it generates higher revenues.

Just an example and my interpretation of how things work.

Thanks for the info. That makes a lot of sense. Just wish we could actually serve both markets simultaneously and start growing for a change.