eolesen
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Nice map. You can't win 'em all, but it's probably time to start focusing on what can be salvaged.
NRT bound/originating traffic can already be handled on AA from DFW, ORD, BOS, JFK, and LAX.
SFO is a lost cause because UA owns that market.
HNL and KOA are throw-away markets in terms of yields -- mostly Japanese honeymooners heading to the beach. Japan-Hawaii is also a market CO and DL cover pretty well, so no need to be the fourth horse in a three horse race.
That really leaves YVR as the only two major markets where a direct connection to NRT might make sense.
Don't underestimate the HKG connect vs. NRT, folks. If you're going to Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, or the Phillipines, it's pretty much a wash. Some markets are 200-300 miles longer via NRT, some are longer via HKG, depending if you leave from ORD or LAX... I find HKG easier to transit, so the elapsed time might be compelling enough in cases where the flying time is a little longer.
I could see CX deciding to serve ORD if AA doesn't, which might be some incentive for APA to consider giving the same waiver they did for DEL.
NRT bound/originating traffic can already be handled on AA from DFW, ORD, BOS, JFK, and LAX.
SFO is a lost cause because UA owns that market.
HNL and KOA are throw-away markets in terms of yields -- mostly Japanese honeymooners heading to the beach. Japan-Hawaii is also a market CO and DL cover pretty well, so no need to be the fourth horse in a three horse race.
That really leaves YVR as the only two major markets where a direct connection to NRT might make sense.
Don't underestimate the HKG connect vs. NRT, folks. If you're going to Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, or the Phillipines, it's pretty much a wash. Some markets are 200-300 miles longer via NRT, some are longer via HKG, depending if you leave from ORD or LAX... I find HKG easier to transit, so the elapsed time might be compelling enough in cases where the flying time is a little longer.
I could see CX deciding to serve ORD if AA doesn't, which might be some incentive for APA to consider giving the same waiver they did for DEL.