I'm starting to think you are him. Tell you what E. lets make this simple, why don't you give me a call when wall street starts agreeing with you. See you when American makes up 15 billion worth of ground..........(but they may want to start going in the positive direction) alright whatever. You are trying to run away from my overall point, because you are wrong. once again you are running from what you said. You said they didn't do it, I give examples and now you are tossing horse crap like time limits or percents or size to try to make your point. How very Doug Parker of you. Brussels? AeroLogic? You are hitting the American harder than most people I have ever seen as of late. Mixed with 1990s way of thinking from management. Delta is trying not to go bankrupt. I know that is a stupid idea for someone like yourself but I personally enjoy it. I suspect the market may be turning here in the future, wanna bet who is going to be hurting more? 5 bucks to any charity.