Richard promises pay increase announcement soon

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Richard Anderson said we'll be hearing shortly about pay increases coming in 2009. Richard made the announcement as he welcomed new listeners to his weekly Right from Richard message.

"We're still working out final details, but there will be a pay increase for all nonpilot work groups at Delta beginning Jan. 1. So stay tuned," Richard said.

In other news this week, Richard mentioned the expanded senior leadership team for the company, including Steve Gorman as chief operating officer and Hank Halter as chief financial officer. He also noted that Ed Bastian has gotten off to a fast start in his new responsibilities in Minneapolis/St. Paul.

"[Ed] met with employees for several hours last week, and you'll be seeing him all over the Delta system in the coming months," Richard said. "He'll be getting to Detroit and Memphis to meet employees and community leaders. And he'll be hitting nonhub stations as well, so keep an eye out for him."
 
Richard Anderson said we'll be hearing shortly about pay increases coming in 2009. Richard made the announcement as he welcomed new listeners to his weekly Right from Richard message.

"We're still working out final details, but there will be a pay increase for all nonpilot work groups at Delta beginning Jan. 1. So stay tuned," Richard said.



IAM response here.

As mentioned in another thread, I wonder why Anderson didn't mention that the IAM membership is getting a raise on Jan 1st. also?
 
IAM response here.

As mentioned in another thread, I wonder why Anderson didn't mention that the IAM membership is getting a raise on Jan 1st. also?

Why is it always "you can't do that,we have a contract" unless it is you who wants to change the conditions of said contract ?
 
IAM response here.

As mentioned in another thread, I wonder why Anderson didn't mention that the IAM membership is getting a raise on Jan 1st. also?
Maybe this how we get on the same page. Bring those lowly payed Delta people up to your pay. Like Delta brought the NWA pilots up to Delta pay so everyone is on the same page. Then hopefully it is upwards for the whole group.
 
Why is it always "you can't do that,we have a contract" unless it is you who wants to change the conditions of said contract ?

Thats the contradiction they feel entitled to as long as it benefits them. If the contract is so "iron clad" as they like to profess and protect from any losses, why be considered for any gains outside of said "contract"?
 
The way I read it is that a raise does not go against what the contract says.

So then what your saying is a union contract is "not so iron clad"? Which is it? Yes or no? Or does it depend only if its to your benefit? :blink:
 
Why is it always "you can't do that,we have a contract" unless it is you who wants to change the conditions of said contract ?
There is no condition(s) to change in this case... If DL leadership wants to give us a step increase, there's absolutely nothing stopping them.

The way I read it is that a raise does not go against what the contract says.

Correct.


So then what your saying is a union contract is "not so iron clad"? Which is it? Yes or no? Or does it depend only if its to your benefit? :blink:

The advantage of a CBA is that the increase can't be taken away on a whim...

The pay rates in *any* CBA are the minimum rates to be paid. There is nothing in our contract preventing Anderson et al from giving everyone at NW the same base rate increase. That he claims otherwise is deceitful at best.

You all should be insulted at how stupid DL leadership assumes you are.
 
Which is it? Yes or no?
Yes it is iron clad.
Or does it depend only if its to your benefit?
first of all its great news compensation is being restored(but its not a raise). however, they probably need to do this because we are at the point where compensation increases and other issues starts to snap back(and its more than just hourly wage). they have done this in the past(restoring pay) because I recall a "raise" was awarded before the yellow book in 2000 and then we were paid an additional retro payment after the second TA ratified at that time. today, there are increases in writing it is just over a defined time period, there is nothing really preventing restoring compensation especially involving a concessionary agreement. consent to make changes otherwise would be necessary.
also we have been compensated performance bonus, success sharing and profit sharing and commission on inflight sales... duty free so pay can be awarded outside an agreement as well.
 
There is no condition(s) to change in this case... If DL leadership wants to give us a step increase, there's absolutely nothing stopping them.



Correct.




The advantage of a CBA is that the increase can't be taken away on a whim...

The pay rates in *any* CBA are the minimum rates to be paid. There is nothing in our contract preventing Anderson et al from giving everyone at NW the same base rate increase. That he claims otherwise is deceitful at best.

You all should be insulted at how stupid DL leadership assumes you are.

So then its only ok only if theres an upside? And now people are pissed because DAL is just honoring the beloved CBA?
 
So then its only ok only if theres an upside? And now people are pissed because DAL is just honoring the beloved CBA?
How stupid are you?
And tell me why would you even accept a pay increase if NOT everyone in the Delta Family is being offered one?
You are showing your true colors and falling right into the web of lies and deceit Delta is pushing.
How would you feel if only the NW Family were set for a pay increase in January. :down:

ya, that's what I thought.
 
IAM response here.

As mentioned in another thread, I wonder why Anderson didn't mention that the IAM membership is getting a raise on Jan 1st. also?


KEV,

You know what the "deal is" !!

1. LET anderson scatter his table crumbs any way he wants to, ,,,BUT..MOST important of ALL, is to get a SUPER EXACT LIST, of Every "QUALIFIED" ramper in the new DL, meaning...NO above the wing people, and DEFINITELY..NO DGL/DLG flunkys.

Then look at the figures, and then you'll know how many "old" DL rampers need to be "converted"


And FINALLY...............Don't have ANY election, or take ANY action,......BEFORE 1/20/09
 
How stupid are you?
And tell me why would you even accept a pay increase if NOT everyone in the Delta Family is being offered one?
You are showing your true colors and falling right into the web of lies and deceit Delta is pushing.
How would you feel if only the NW Family were set for a pay increase in January. :down:

ya, that's what I thought.

Some NW people ARE getting a pay increase Jan 1st!!!
:lol: How stupid are you? :lol:
 
The latest on pay raises.

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To: Delta Colleagues Worldwide
From: Richard Anderson and Ed Bastian
Subject: Pay Increases Coming Soon

When we announced our plans to create one great airline by merging Delta and Northwest, we said that employees would directly participate in the growth and future success of the new Delta with an award of stock and pay raises shortly after the merger. We delivered on the first promise last week and now it is time to deliver on the other. We are pleased to announce that non-contract employees will receive pay increases as we continue our progression toward industry-standard pay by the end of 2010.

Effective January 1, U.S. payroll non-contract employees will receive pay increases of 3% at every step on every scale. For Aircraft Maintenance Technicians and Flight Training Procedures Instructors, pay scales will be increased 4%. We are differentiating the percentage amount of the pay increase for these workgroups based on their pay relative to industry standard. You can expect to see more such differentiation as workgroups achieve industry standard. There will also be further adjustments to certain steps on pay scales in some Airport Customer Service job categories and in Materials Management to better align them with corresponding Northwest pay scales. For international employees, we are continuing the previously established annual salary reviews, with any adjustments made on a country-by-country basis.

Merit employees of the new Delta below the officer and director level, will participate in a 3% merit pool distributed on April 1, 2009, and increases will be based on individual performance. Pilots will continue to receive increases in accordance with their agreement. We will continue our practice of not including officers and directors in across-the-board pay increases until we have reached industry-standard pay for frontline employees.

For our new Delta coworkers from Northwest who are covered by collective bargaining agreements, pay will continue to be governed by these agreements while representation issues are resolved. The contracts make provisions for increases generally in the amount of 1-1.5% on January 1, 2009.

We have taken unprecedented steps to accelerate integration milestones that will bring our operations and workgroups together as quickly as possible. Delta’s pilot and flight dispatcher unions filed promptly with the National Mediation Board to resolve representation issues. Delta has sent letters to the other unions encouraging them to begin quickly addressing representation issues so that the pay and benefits packages for all employees of the new Delta can be aligned.

Delta’s philosophy on pay is pretty simple – provide industry-standard pay with opportunities for additional compensation through programs that allow us to pay you at the top of the industry when we run a great airline for our customers (Shared Rewards) and we earn top tier profits (15% Profit Sharing). Our compensation programs are designed to retain our fine workforce, attract new talent to the company, and establish well-defined performance metrics so we can continue to provide value to our shareholders, our customers and our employees.

Looking ahead, we must deal with a very difficult economic environment around the world, with many predicting a recession in 2009. At the same time, we know these economic pressures also affect you personally, so it was important for us to keep our pay increase commitment to you. Please keep the challenges we face in mind as you work at Delta every day. We need you to help in every way possible – do your job well, provide great service, and save money whenever you have the opportunity.

As a result of your merger stock awards, employees now have a significant ownership stake in the company, worth more than 15% of pay before taxes for most employees. Stock awards and pay increases are tangible proof that we are serious about ensuring you participate in the success you help create. So keep creating success at Delta!

The new Delta is a strong company built for long-term success. Thank you for keeping us on track by running excellent operations and flying our customers to their destinations safely, on-time and with world-class customer service.
 
dapoes,
Since you're so inclined to support Delta's "ways", you do realize that it is a violation of policy and procedure to post or transmit Delta's internal memorandums without their consent and it subjects you to possible disciplinary action up to and including discharge, right?