chellow, I must agree with scorp. here. If you really do have something then press forward. These nego's are going nowhere unless this Judge sends fines and orders back to the table. If this Judge does not I see a few more years. Maybe rethink holding back, but i do understand you wouldn't want it to hold up nego's. At this point and time that a tough decision to make, But could it be well worth it???
I would love to see you guys a representational vote between whomever. As long as this asso. gets put on the chopping block and discarded I will support anyone on the other choice of the ballot. Good luck to you. Hope it all turns out well for you all...
I guess it doesn't hurt, some of the members here have alluded to it.
If you read the Association constitution we are not members of the Association.
Article 2 of constitution states that the Association membership
"consist of the international presidents of the TWU and IAM and their "designees"" . We are not members of the Association. This is in violation of
Railroad Labor act 45 U.S.C. § 152 11th (a) "all employees shall become members of the labor organization representing their craft or class"
Some may say, well the Association is the IAM and TWU. This may be partly true but we are not members of the IAM or the TWU, we must hold membership to the Association only according to
45 U.S.C. § 152 11th (a), both the IAM and TWU have been decertified at
42 NMB No. 20, file No. CR-7131 it states "TWU/IAM Association as the certified representative and the TWU's and IAM individual certifications are terminated." "The Board finds that the TWU/IAM Mechanics Association is the certified representative of the Mechanics and Related Employees craft or class at the New American and that certification hereinafter will be referred to as the certification in NMB Case No. R-7422. TWU’s certification in NMB Case No. R-6872 and IAM’s Certification in NMB Case No. R-4593 are extinguished." As far as the NMB and Railroad Labor act the IAM and TWU are no longer on the ramp.
Again the reasoning for this is for the IAM and TWU to maintain governance and your Union dues, if we were to become members of the Association, it would have to file with the department of Labor as a Labor organization. As a Labor organization the Association would be free and independent of the IAM and TWU.
Now were does the money jeopardy come in to the IAM and TWU? We are looking at a possible class action lawsuit against this two unions on interfering in representation and negotiations.
You have to ask how much money each one of us have lost, due to this abortion of a Association, I'm looking at over $500 million dollars.