All of the top pilot management is east.
All of the flight additions are east.
All of the experience is east.
All of the pilot majority is east.
Who do you think has more influence on Tempe?
USAPA was your union, both east and west. The west chose to fight it and if USAPA folds, it will be your responsibility. WIth jungle rules, the east has the influence of upper management. Who do you think will come out of this better. Have fun working for Republic. Keep it safe!
Just something to think about,
The smell of desperation is thick in here. When this merger was first announced all we heard about was how the east was strong ALPA supporters and that you all were on first name basis with all of the leadership. When that did not work out everything was ALPA’s fault and the east was going to reinvent the union wheel.
Now there are threats that USAPA will (the east pilots) dump the union to once again get out of a court order action.
Gentlemen, that threat does not concern the west. We have been non union before there are many here that worked without a union here at AWA. Not a big deal but it appears to be a scary prospect for the east. BTW Stevie B did not have a Plan B so dumping the union was not it.
It is possible to have a pilot group without a union. Jet Blue just got a pretty good contract without a union. They did not take what they were given they negotiated.
Obviously the people pushing this forward are not real deep thinkers. Let’s try something, I will list some of the bad thing that would happen if we lost the union and you all decide which side would lose more.
With no union there is no one to collect the assessment so the PBGC law suit collapses. With no union the RICO law suit gets dropped. With no union there is no one to continue the grievances.
The LOA 95 snap back gets dropped, no pay raise.
The silly letter Cleary just sent Parker about the 190 sale gets dropped.
95-98% of all pending grievances go away.
There is no one to send the $35 million payment to so the company just holds it until someone sues (on their own dime)
We continue to work under the same contracts we have now. (Enjoy LOA 95 and the pay rate)
The federal injunction to use Nicolau is still in place. So any individual or group or the next union will be bound to use that seniority list for any new contract. The company is also bound by the injunction so any thoughts of getting out of it you can set aside.
As far as which side management might side with. Would it be the side that has created this mess? Would it be the side that has delayed the completion of the merger because of a sense of entitlement? Would it be the pilots that took the ad out to embarrass the company? Would it be the side that refused to allow those same managers to even join the union? Would it be the side that sends in the grievance committee and demands instead of negotiates? Or would it be the side that has worked with Parker and Kirby for the last 8 years.
That whole "majority" thing the company could care less. If as you say the company imposes things they will impose things and if you don't like it find somewhere else to cry. Remember no one to protect you. Fired at will for not complying.
Your call guys. I can live without a union. How about you?
EDIT: If there is a merger who does the next integration? I think the west guys could work something acceptable with the next partner quicker and better then the pilots that can not be trusted with a deal. The same group of pilots that killed two unions to avoid a merger deal. Enjoy the bottom of that list. If you really think the Nicolau goes away.
