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I hope that everyone and your families caught in this winter weather out east is staying safe.
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I presume the word "benefit" above is sarcastic. As a pax, I'm curious about why we should be concerned that mechanics have "been excluded from operational management of deicing", which I presume is a fancy way of saying that ramp workers now do deicing.The only thing different between now and then is that aircraft maintenance has been excluded from operational management of deicing. Another benefit to the passengers of AA, brought to the traveling public by AMR Management.
I’m getting tired of all you bleeding heart mechanics. So shut the hell up and get over it!! It’s been this way for years. I signed on to this blog to get some real insight to what might be in the future of Title lll contract. And yes I’m a FSC. And all of you are soooo narcissistic, you make me vomit from all the pabulum you force feed this board. Not to mention all the rumors generated just to see if some moron will add another handful of snow to an all ready over bloated snow ball rumors. This forum is dominated by a group that is so out of touch with reality, I question why I even read it or even write. But it like passing the car wreck, you just got to have a look for yourself. Do I feel your pain? No. Can I at least identify on the half witted opinions that are so elegantly put forward? No. You should all be grateful for the job you now have, and have a sense pride for unclogging that LAV or making that pesky isle carpet stay down, all of you should are long overdue for a reality check.
And check your attitudes too.
Contract after contract, job responsibilities were taken away from us. This is not about attitudes.
AA should not have to pay A&P wages for "no skill required" jobs, "so easy [that] an FSC can do it."So, put this in your pipe and smoke......................THE REASON FSC HAS TAKEN JOB FUNCTIONS FROM AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO SKILL REQUIRED AND THEY SAVE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.. You know,,,,,,"SO EASY, AN FSC CAN DO IT"
No, it's not about attitudes. It's all about entitlement. "MY" work vs. "YOURS"...
What's funny is the highest paid union workers in the industry seem to have the least sense of entitlement as to what is their work's vs. what's actually important to having a smooth running operation.
Nice post Hopeful.........from an unskilled 28 year fleet service clerk (cc). All I can say is your comments speak VOLUMES about you. Not sure if you are DFW based but the mechanics I know here (there are many) are not jerks like you seem to be. Must say though, would love to meet you some day and put a face with the "I am the almighty mechanic and the FSC is screwing me time and time again whine".Look at it this way....Mechanics have consistently lossed work since 1983 to fleet service and cabin service. Contract after contract, job responsibilities were taken away from us. This is not about attitudes. And thanks to individuals such as yourself and the TWU, you gladly took union brothers and sisters' jobs away frothing at the mouth for that OT for deicing!
So people like yourself criticize us for our feelings and opinions, meanwhile you inflated your own egos because you now do work "THAT MECHANICS ONCE DID.!"
So, put this in your pipe and smoke......................THE REASON FSC HAS TAKEN JOB FUNCTIONS FROM AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO SKILL REQUIRED AND THEY SAVE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$..
You know,,,,,,"SO EASY, AN FSC CAN DO IT"
By the way, I wouldn't be too optimistic about what is going to happen with your contract......You guys are put on hold because, as per your mediatiator, you guys have a TA that your negotiating committee refused to bring back for a vote....
And like us "narcissistic" mechanics, it will now be your turn to lose job functions when CS is totally outsourced and possibly your whole job title...
But feel free to post here when you finally get screwed.
Happy New Year!
Don't you think that giving deicing and push backs to fleet was management's idea? Do you think management wants to keep an additional 2000 aircraft mechanics just to do nothing but deicing and push backs? Do the math: Aircraft mechanic- $35/hr, severe winter storm moves in , overtime required , aircraft mechanic overtime rate, $52.50/hr. Fleet service starting part time rate $10/hr, severe winter storm moves in, everyone gets "white slipped". Part timers get a mandatory extension at $10/hr. NO OT. Pension accrual is another factor management considers, a/c mechanics accrue a great deal while a part time FSC accrues virtually nothing. Multiply this by tens of thousands of flights and man hours per month and you can see why management wanted to give it to fleet. As an FSC I personally couldn't care less if a/c maintenance got deicing back, but I doubt management will let you have it back.Look at it this way....Mechanics have consistently lossed work since 1983 to fleet service and cabin service. Contract after contract, job responsibilities were taken away from us. This is not about attitudes. And thanks to individuals such as yourself and the TWU, you gladly took union brothers and sisters' jobs away frothing at the mouth for that OT for deicing!
So people like yourself criticize us for our feelings and opinions, meanwhile you inflated your own egos because you now do work "THAT MECHANICS ONCE DID.!"
So, put this in your pipe and smoke......................THE REASON FSC HAS TAKEN JOB FUNCTIONS FROM AIRCRAFT MAINTENANCE IS BECAUSE THERE IS NO SKILL REQUIRED AND THEY SAVE $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$..
You know,,,,,,"SO EASY, AN FSC CAN DO IT"
By the way, I wouldn't be too optimistic about what is going to happen with your contract......You guys are put on hold because, as per your mediatiator, you guys have a TA that your negotiating committee refused to bring back for a vote....
And like us "narcissistic" mechanics, it will now be your turn to lose job functions when CS is totally outsourced and possibly your whole job title...
But feel free to post here when you finally get screwed.
Happy New Year!
So, Eric....Do you clean toilets and mop floors as part of your job responsibilities?
Who are the highest paid union workers in the industry? Don't say SWA...
Try UPS as being the highest paid. And I will tell your that THEIR JOB IS THEIR JOB..
What kind of statement is "MY work vs yours?
That has nothing to do with union work vs non union work.
Does an accountant sweep floors when it is not tax season?
Does AA VP's clean aircraft when they have nothing to do?
Do you scrub the bottom of toilet seats when not busy posting here?
Do AA VP's cross utilize their job functions?
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Jetblue used to require their managers and above to go work the in field. It gave them a much tighter connection to what was going on. Instead, AA's culture prohibits it. And the unions are just as much at fault there.